Psychologist Recommends Refusing to Treat Vets Suffering from PTSD - Page 2

may · #11 05-21-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

A psychologist responsible for assessing returning war veterans for post-traumatic stress disorder -- a psychological ailment that could entitle them to monthly disability payments --wrote
"Given that we are having more and more compensation-seeking veterans, I'd like to suggest that you [refrain from giving a diagnosis of PTSD [straight out],"] the psychologist at a Department of Veterans Affairs center in Texas wrote in an e-mail. She suggested diagnosing a less severe disorder that would not carry the greater long-term disability costs.

Vi while I think its good to show the other side, and the truth is also good to see and I'm not sure DD would know it if you rubbed his nose in it.
Note the words [straight out].THIS is why I don't have a problem with this.

Dankdude · #12 05-21-2008, 02:59 PM

You assume a lot May. Really you do.

may · #13 05-21-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

You assume a lot May. Really you do.

Coming from a real ASSumer that means a lot.

Dankdude · #14 05-21-2008, 04:21 PM

May what did I ever do to you? Why are you always on the attack?
Even Me and Vi in reality are friends... What the fuck is your problem?
Why are you such an asshole?
BTW I was in the service and also had a brother who was in Vietnam, I understand what PTSD is. I also understand a whole lot more than you think.

ViRedd · #15 05-21-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by may

Vi while I think its good to show the other side, and the truth is also good to see and I'm not sure DD would know it if you rubbed his nose in it.
Note the words [straight out].THIS is why I don't have a problem with this.

AhHa ... I get-cha. I honestly missed the meaning of what was said. Thanks for pointing it out.

Vi

Lacy · #16 05-22-2008, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by may

I am not bitter nor do I want or can I think of a reason for anyone to be sad for me, my problem just made it harder to deal with people from the anger I had inside. Well I apologize if you took that as sympathy because it certainly wasn't intended that way. All I was saying is that I would rather deal with ptsd on my own rather than have health professionals trying to get into my brain. I have never had nor ever would accept compensation BUT in saying that I do not have any problems with people who may need it.

The people that I know 4 who have gotten help are all crippled one couldn't be helped back and knowing him and his family well I can say that he wasn't stable before he went. The three others seem to want people to feel sorry for them and the use of this has seemed to crippled them and I know 2 of them weren't in combat or at least not as their job. At least 5 were in support for every 1 in combat.
The three that I know of that were in real combat all seem normal though one does drink way to much not that the others don't drink.
I think some people are weak willed/minded and some are strong willed/minded, you need the drive to go forward.
Although little can be drawn from what I know.
Please understand that I do care, I think more than most and I fear that some will be crippled and little can be done.

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Originally Posted by pandabear

dont try to change the subject my friend, i clearly hit a note, since what i posted is irrefutable and everyone knows it.

disposable Income, says nothing but what your opinion of whats disposable really is. So dont try to act so high and mighty, realise you and I are just a dirty little selfish spec.

im not saying you dont do good things, im saying if you have more than meals and a modest habitat dont go around acting like you are such a selfless person

you are greedy like all the rest specially me. if not you would sell all your erb right now and send it to the starving. dont smoke a drop.

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

From the article:I can't even wrap my brain around your point pandabear. I did not take what he was saying ina selfish way at all and you could bring the topic about dying kids in anything. What a thing to throw in the guys face.

'...told staff members not to diagnose the illness because to do so would increase the government's costs."

Why are you guyz suprised at this? Most government health care is eventually rationed as demand reaches its peak and goes over the top. Do you Libs think anything would be different if the federal government took over the entire health care system? This just illustrates the inefficiencies of the federal government.

Vi

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Originally Posted by may

Vi while I think its good to show the other side, and the truth is also good to see and I'm not sure DD would know it if you rubbed his nose in it.
Note the words [straight out].THIS is why I don't have a problem with this.

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

You assume a lot May. Really you do.

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Originally Posted by may

Coming from a real ASSumer that means a lot.

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

May what did I ever do to you? Why are you always on the attack?
Even Me and Vi in reality are friends... What the fuck is your problem?
Why are you such an asshole?
BTW I was in the service and also had a brother who was in Vietnam, I understand what PTSD is. I also understand a whole lot more than you think.

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

AhHa ... I get-cha. I honestly missed the meaning of what was said. Thanks for pointing it out.

Vi

I don't understand why you are jumping all over this dude. He didn't write the article....but was merely pointing out the unfairness of how mental disorders are being prioritized. Or lack thereof. : peace:

Chill out guys.

pandabear · #17 05-22-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

From the article:

'...told staff members not to diagnose the illness because to do so would increase the government's costs."

Why are you guyz suprised at this? Most government health care is eventually rationed as demand reaches its peak and goes over the top. Do you Libs think anything would be different if the federal government took over the entire health care system? This just illustrates the inefficiencies of the federal government.

Vi

damn excelent point, these poor vets have to deal with substandard cost driven government care, and Hillary wants to FORCE us all to get it too!!! and only because its what some people think they want,

i think thats why they have the elctoral college because people are dumbasses including me.

i mean in all reality i am not quialified to say this and that about national security, most people only are skilled in thier own educated fields of work,

so now obama is one step from being the prez and this guy like served 8 months in the senate only!!!!

wtf?

i mean shit i know its all happy and cool cuz hes black but damn can we make him like a puppet king then or somthing and let a real qualified person take the helm of our lives for the next 4 years?

I think i may have more quilifed people I have met through businees contacts than obama no doubt there are some pimps out there that are super smart and successful, i guess thats the reason they dont run for office.

office is saved for the egomaniac people who have the emotional disposition of little children

ok ok last question, is george bush an egomanic?

definatly not, or else he wouldnt have been pissing against the wind this whole time.

you ever tried to piss against the wind? it fuckin sucks.

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pandabear · #18 05-22-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacy

I don't understand why you are jumping all over this dude. He didn't write the article....but was merely pointing out the unfairness of how mental disorders are being prioritized. Or lack thereof. : peace:

Chill out guys.

this is why i jumped, but no doubt this is all in fun heated debate, the politics forum is like a public dog fight but with words, I think thats why it gets so heated. like if 2 guys were about to fight, it would be a lot more messy if people were watchin rather than just 2 guys fighting in a room alone.

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

Human Compassion is something that 90% of hard core right wingers lack in abundance.... They just play lip service to it.... Compassionate conservatives my ass.

Lacy · #19 05-22-2008, 08:35 AM

Yeah panda. Thats true. Its is the politics section. I guess just never get used to it.

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Originally Posted by pandabear

this is why i jumped, but no doubt this is all in fun heated debate, the politics forum is like a public dog fight but with words, I think thats why it gets so heated. like if 2 guys were about to fight, it would be a lot more messy if people were watchin rather than just 2 guys fighting in a room alone.

Yeah but I don't like seeing anyone fighting whether it is in cyberland or real life bu to each their own.

Yeah the politics forum does get heated. I forget how heated it gets until I do a dumbassed thing like make a comment here.

truthfully said

Dankdude · #20 05-22-2008, 11:39 AM

Please Panda, where am I wrong in that statement?

I'll refresh that statement:
Human Compassion is something that 90% of hard core right wingers lack in abundance.... They just play lip service to it.... Compassionate conservatives my ass..

The reason I say this is because yeah Right wingers put up figures that they contribute more in dollars, But how many actually get out and do something about the situations?
Very Few, It's Left wingers who go and work for organizations such as the Peace Corps and the like.
Giving Money feeds for a day, getting out and doing something (like the Peace Corps) (education)feeds for a life time. ..... Now back to the topic at hand.