Well that can be said the same toward the narrow minded, judgmental atheists have this idea of "us" and "them" because we don't believe the same things as you do.

But I hear you man, I call them "over vigilantes". E.G., back in the day I knew a girl who wasn't really religious and later on during the year her grandfather died, and she was pretty upset. This "holier than thou" dude approached her and asked if her grandfather was religious, she said she didn't think so. His response was, oh, then he's in hell. And that moment on, turned her away from religion forever. Rest assured, I let that kid have it.

We are human, and we all have sinned, who are we to judge anyone?

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Zen says: We are human, and we all have sinned, who are we to judge anyone?

My god you are Human. I had my doubts. I wondered if you weren't some alien robot from the planet "Fuck-em-all".

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Amendment IV, search and seizure rights. Read about them before they're gone.

I do have a pen pal from there, great beer.

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Go see Stein's move, then post here. The movie isn't about creationism ... its about intelligent design and the complete stifling of debate in academia. Stein does a good job in presenting the idea that evolution and intelligent design are mutually compatable. Again ... go see the movie.

Vi

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I'll check it out Vi. Although I am a firm believer in natural selection, it's always good to view other aspects. For example, one of my favorite classes in High School was Theology; "Religions of the World" to be more precise.

I've seen it, almost walked out when it was insinuated that evolutionary theory was responsible for the holocaust, left feeling dirty. Expelled is filled with half truths and outright lies..

IMO "intelligent design" is "creationism" in a modern shell. Even if intelligent design was different than creationism, it is no more scientific. They're just slapping some lipstick on that pig..

Yeah man, I agree, ANYONE unwilling to question their beliefs is ignorant.

I'm a firm Agnostic myself. I don't 'believe' in anything. I only have my own thoughts and ideas.

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I used to live right down the road from it. It's in Santee, California. Not too far, actually, from the Unarians.
I agree with that.

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Ron Paul doesn't deliver babies.
He reads them the Bill of Rights until they crawl their way to freedom!

Was Darwin's concept of the single cell a little different than what we know today?

And, Stein's take on the Holocaust was that it was the result of a mindset that debased human life. How else could the pursuit of eugenics evolve? Consider that we have our own Holocaust going on right here in this country with the debasement our unborn. If you poo-poo this idea, then reflect on what is meant by a mindset. Next will be the aged and the infirmed. In Nazi Germany it became the Jews, Catholics, Homosexuals and the infirmed.

Here's more on that mindset:

BlackGenocide.org | The Truth About Margaret Sanger

Vi

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You realise Hitler was a Catholic? and that the Catholic church backed the Nazi Party in thier persecution of the Jews?

To say that Darwin was even indirectly resposible for the holocaust is rediculous. Eugenics is the POLAR OPPOSITE TO NATURAL SELECTION. (look up the word NATURAL.)

To say that abortion is the debasement of human life shows no regard for the psychology behind any mother to be who has to make that 'Choice' (from experiance I know it to not FEEL like a choice), I hope you're never in a position where you have to make that choice.

......and furthermore, what are Stiens veiws on Homosexuals? I bet they're not far off Hitlers.

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