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Old 05-22-2008, 01:20 PM
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The reason is because when involved in a debate that has been hammered into the ground, ie. Creationist vs. Evolution, Pro life vs. Pro choice (I'm a quiet Pro lifer), Gay Marriage, it distracts people from what is really important, ie. Jobs leaving the country, Healthcare, the Neo-cons selling this country and it's people down the river to make a profit. When it comes right down to it, it's trivial bullshit.
As I have stated many times, religion has been used for thousands of years to control the masses through fear of going to hell if they do not conform to the dictates of the ruling class.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:42 PM
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The reason is because when involved in a debate that has been hammered into the ground, ie. Creationist vs. Evolution, Pro life vs. Pro choice (I'm a quiet Pro lifer), Gay Marriage, it distracts people from what is really important, ie. Jobs leaving the country, Healthcare, the Neo-cons selling this country and it's people down the river to make a profit. When it comes right down to it, it's trivial bullshit.
As I have stated many times, religion has been used for thousands of years to control the masses through fear of going to hell if they do not conform to the dictates of the ruling class.
You can still pick a side in the Creationist vs. Evolution debate and care about those other things. None of those things you claim are trivial are trivial to me. I also do not find the things you feel are important to be trivial either.

Now arguing over who should win American Idol or who got a ball through some apparatus seems trivial to me but I'm not going to a sports forum and tell them to stop arguing and to start argueing about what i want them to argue about instead.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:04 AM
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Judge continues injunction against 'Expelled' for alleged copyright infringement of John Lennon's song 'Imagine', which means that Expelled, currently playing in theaters around the country, cannot be reproduced or otherwise distributed.
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Judge continues injunction against 'Expelled' for alleged copyright infringement of John Lennon's song 'Imagine', which means that Expelled, currently playing in theaters around the country, cannot be reproduced or otherwise distributed.
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Sooo.. I don't know about you, but I prefer my pseudo-science documentaries without a side of liars and thieves. This development along with other incidents of unscrupulous behavior has destroyed Expelled and it's creators credibility, the little it had to begin with anyway..

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Sooo.. I don't know about you, but I prefer my pseudo-science documentaries without a side of liars and thieves. This development along with other incidents of unscrupulous behavior has destroyed Expelled and it's creators credibility, the little it had to begin with anyway..
Are you talking about Ben Stein, Nixons old speech writer?
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Jesus CHRIST, did you see the list of names in the first paragraph of the article??? Man, I would have loved to see Dawkins take on Stein in an open debate on the subject.

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Old 05-24-2008, 06:57 AM
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Jesus CHRIST, did you see the list of names in the first paragraph of the article??? Man, I would have loved to see Dawkins take on Stein in an open debate on the subject.

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Luckily we can read all their works without the editing tricks.
Do you know the TAMs (James Randi's The Amazing Meetings) are available on DVD with all those folks (and more) speaking?

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The production values are not all that great but who cares with all those folks speaking - here are a few that appear (not all of them on one DVD though): James Randi, Mythbusters, Penn&Teller, Michael Shermer (skeptic mag), Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Eugenie Scott, Banachek, Richard Wisemen, Joseph Nickell, Julia Sweeney, Bob Park (quackwatch), Phil Plait (the bad astronomer), Carolyn Porco (lead astronomer: cassini mission), Murray Gell-Mann, Matt Stone and Trey Parker (South Park creators) to name a few...
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:11 AM
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I really like ted.com, I'll have to check out James Randi.
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...it distracts people from what is really important, ie. Jobs leaving the country, Healthcare, the Neo-cons selling this country and it's people down the river to make a profit. When it comes right down to it, it's trivial bullshit.
Unfortunately, it wasn't a neo-con that signed NAFTA. Hershey Chocolate just closed a plant out here in California forcing 600 workers out of jobs. Where did the plant move to? Mexico. Yep, the great American chocolate bar is now being produced in Mexico...Thank you Bill Clinton.
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