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VTXDave · #41 05-13-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ceestyle

One more comment about this. I think that people get WAY WAY too wrapped up in the constitution as a sacred document.

The US Constitution is what defines us as a nation...Two words ceestyle..."Representative Republic". I implore you to check it out. Still no words about your "bigot by association" remark and my retort? Ah, you did....please disregard.

CanadianCoyote · #42 05-13-2008, 05:46 PM

Good point, I did come out of nowhere. And what do you mean by 'nazis'...?

Nevermind. I can see that arguing with you is just about as productive as arguing with the wind.

Libertarians scare me ...

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Originally Posted by medicineman

Geeze a new guy with an attitude. Go get a fucking job so you can mellow out. I've been here quite a while, so maybe I should ask you where the fuck did you come from? If you are refering to my LIBS moniker in a couple a threads back, I was referring to libertarians, geeze you are a wise one aint ya? Hey I'll take you on as well as all these nazis on this site, name your poison. I usually try and get along............. well maybe not but I am a friendly guy..............well maybe not, but I have great tolerance for stupid assholes..............well maybe not, but I promise I'll try and do better......................well maybe not!

Wordz · #43 05-13-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ceestyle

One more comment about this. I think that people get WAY WAY too wrapped up in the constitution as a sacred document. It's not the Bible, for chrissake .. not that the Bible is an example that resonates with me, but it was written by some very smart people ... a very very long time ago. This world is changing. There are absolutely brilliant ideas in the there, but they were drafted for a different time and nation than we live in today. They were certainly human - hence we have amendments. When the document was written, people owned slaves and shit in holes in the ground!!

Sounds like how cops and judges view the constitution

CanadianCoyote · #44 05-13-2008, 05:49 PM

Heil! (^_^)/

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Originally Posted by Wordz

Who are you calling nazi's? The people who don't need the government to hold our dicks when we piss?

ceestyle · #45 05-13-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VTXDave

The US Constitution is what defines us as a nation...Two words ceestyle..."Representative Republic". I implore you to check it out. Still no words about your "bigot by association" remark and my retort?

Please see post 38 for my response about Don Black's donation.

Exactly: the Republic should change so as to reflect those it represents. Steadfastly adhering to a document written for an entirely different society is not doing those it represents much justice.

ceestyle · #46 05-13-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wordz

Sounds like how cops and judges view the constitution

No. I believe in adhering to the constitution as it exists, not in twisting what it says to conform to what you are trying to accomplish. There IS a difference. I believe there are things in the constitution that need to be changed.

and I think the application of the second amendment is a perfect example of how the wording and intent of a document has been twisted for the purposes it was not intended.

Wordz · #47 05-13-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianCoyote

Heil! (^_^)/

aww how cute

VTXDave · #48 05-13-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ceestyle

If I were to defend Obama, it would be to say that the NBPP does not stand for racism or intolerance, even if members of it undoubtedly are. Therefore, taking money from them is not principally wrong, unless there is a history of the organization perpetrating racism and violence. If that is the case, then it is every bit as foul.

New Black Panther Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The New Black Panther Party (NBPP), whose formal name is the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, is a U.S.-based black supremacist organization founded in Dallas, Texas in 1989....Michael McGee, announced the creation of the Black Panther Militia, which inspired Aaron Michaels, a community activist and radio producer, to establish the New Black Panther Party. Michaels rose to widespread attention for the first time when he called on blacks to use shotguns and rifles to protest against the chairman of a school board who had been taped calling black students "little niggers"...

The New Black Panther Party self-identifies with the original Black Panther Party and claims to uphold its legacy. ...

Although it says it sees capitalism as the fundamental problem with the world and "revolution" as the solution...

Members have referred to "bloodsucking Jews", and Khalid Abdul Muhammad "has blamed slavery and even the Holocaust on the 'hooked-nose, bagel-eating, lox-eating, perpetrating-a-fraud, so-called Jew'."

Wordz · #49 05-13-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ceestyle

No. I believe in adhering to the constitution as it exists, not in twisting what it says to conform to what you are trying to accomplish. There IS a difference. I believe there are things in the constitution that need to be changed.

and I think the application of the second amendment is a perfect example of how the wording and intent of a document has been twisted for the purposes it was not intended.

What was the intended intent of the second amendment? In your own OPINION of course.

ceestyle · #50 05-13-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wordz

What was the intended intent of the second amendment? In your own OPINION of course.

To allow civilians to have a developed militia, in the case they should have to defend themselves from outside attack and as a check on government itself.