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Obama: World wants to see U.S. lead - CNN.com

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Sen. Barack Obama said Thursday that the most important thing he could achieve as president would be to deal with Iraq and the threat of al Qaeda in Afghanistan while improving "our influence around the world."...

"I think there is still a sense everywhere I go that if the United States regains its sense of who it is and our values and our ideals, that we will continue to set the tone for a more peaceful and prosperous world."
Improving our influence? Set the tone? Who died and left us in charge? sounds like more Imperialistic verbiage to me.
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Dave you can't get more imperialistic than we are now.... In Case you haven't noticed GW Bush has put our national prestige into the toilet.
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Dave you can't get more imperialistic than we are now....
Well, we could always invade Iran, yes? Truthfully I would not argue this point other than the fact that 2 wrongs don't make a right. The way I see it, Obama will continue this policy of American Empire and we, as a nation, must reverse....not perpetuate. Obama is the candidate of change? Sorry, I don't see it when he speaks of this and talks of increasing our troop strength.

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In Case you haven't noticed GW Bush has put our national prestige into the toilet.
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Don't leave out N. Korea! And Iceland.
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Dave you can't get more imperialistic than we are now.... In Case you haven't noticed GW Bush has put our national prestige into the toilet.
Really? Are you people still grasping for things to blame on Bush? U.S.'s prestige was tainted way back in Vietnam.

Do you honestly believe that the U.S. was held in such high standards before Bush got in office? Please.
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Hey At least Obama isn't threatening Iran like Hitlery is.
Like Israel really needs our help, they have 256 Nukes for Christ sake (half of which are ICBMs).
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Don't leave out N. Korea! And Iceland.
I knew I was forgetting something...So many countries for us to spread our Freedom and Democracy to, so little time.
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Really? Are you people still grasping for things to blame on Bush? U.S.'s prestige was tainted way back in Vietnam.

Do you honestly believe that the U.S. was held in such high standards before Bush got in office? Please.
Let me Guess, your a Bush Supporter. ROTFLMAO.....
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Hey At least Obama isn't threatening Iran like Hitlery is.
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As Obama told the Chicago Tribune on September 26, 2004,"[T]he big question is going to be, if Iran is resistant to these pressures [to stop its nuclear program], including economic sanctions, which I hope will be imposed if they do not cooperate, at what point ... if any, are we going to take military action?"
He added, "[L]aunching some missile strikes into Iran is not the optimal position for us to be in" given the ongoing war in Iraq. "On the other hand, having a radical Muslim theocracy in possession of nuclear weapons is worse." Obama went on to argue that military strikes on Pakistan should not be ruled out if "violent Islamic extremists" were to "take over."

Not only Iran, but Pakistan.
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Think about it, Pakistan already has a Nuke, Iran is still in the development stage.... Now if we weren't in the way (Iraq) do you honestly think that Israel would let them finish the job? They attacked Syria because they suspected they were developing a Nuke.
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