Originally Posted by yelodrvr

all this can happen right now. DEA, IRS, hell the EPA or health dept can cripple a person or business. any arm of the police can seize your accounts and do everything you just described. dont you watch law and order. lol

as far as the o mighty $. hell the vid someone suggested, confirmed that the U.S. $ is nothing more than a piece of paper and been that way your centuries.

so again i tell you IMHO all that you are fearing is already in place been in place before you ever even new the tin foil hat would protect you. (just a little humor not trying to offend)

so the fact that this technology that already exist, and been in use for a long time. what is it going to hurt to use it to keep track of the predators, criminals, and govern over our police. and have my damn coffee ready when i get out of the shower. lol

you keep saying it will do this and this. all that has already happened and is happening everyday. its a mute point.

take the internet for example. before joe pud whacker new about the porn that was available on the net. it had been around for a long time. my understanding of it. is that it started as a military communication operation, to advert communication break down over short wave radios. (unless you listen to al gore) now look i get my porn in 2.2 seconds with 1,233,434,544 sites to chose from. isn't technology great. learn it, love it, use it for personal gain. its the American way. and relax unless you out to destroy us all or block the access to the real currency of the U.S. oil, they are not going to bother with average joe.

Originally Posted by We TaRdED

also, what would be stopping them from going even further?

picture this, say if they wanted to do something even more ludicrous, if anyone tried to protest they would just turn off you chip and no more money for mr. average joe

no more money equals no more food, no mortgage payment, no money for gas, etc etc.....

you catch my drift?

i wouldnt be advocating these links if i didnt think people had to know!!! we need to unite in order to tell the fed gov to go to hell... if only a handful of ppl are knowledgeable of the dire repercussions than they will get their way... im a very placid guy and im not looking to trouble people for the fun of it- im not a sadist. t

these things are really going on without us knowing it!!!!!! help spread the word if you want to save our liberties!!!

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

No man,

if the government came after me today, tracked all my purchases via creditcard, and all the bad stuff you said, I could simply drop off the radar. I would use cash only, I would assume an alias and there'd be nothing they could do. With the Vchip, your boned.

Ridicule all you want with the "tin foil hat", I am not a conspiracy theorist, just a realist. Technology is headed that way and its gonna happen, I'm just trying to delay it as long as I can.

Originally Posted by ViRedd

That's assuming that cash would still have value AFTER its outlawed. Don't think that could happen? Well, in 1933, FDR's administration outlawed the ownership of gold. American citizens caught with gold coin, bullion, or those who refused to rescind gold clauses in contracts, were subject to $10,000 fines and/or 5 years in prison.

If they did it once, they will/can do it again.

Vi

Originally Posted by ViRedd

That's assuming that cash would still have value AFTER its outlawed. Don't think that could happen? Well, in 1933, FDR's administration outlawed the ownership of gold. American citizens caught with gold coin, bullion, or those who refused to rescind gold clauses in contracts, were subject to $10,000 fines and/or 5 years in prison.

If they did it once, they will/can do it again.

Vi

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

I will never let anything be implanted in my body. Ever.

Originally Posted by We TaRdED

i hope all of the americans have this much sense!!!!!!!!!!!

i wont go down without a fight! they will have to kill me(or highly sedate) me in order to get that shit in MY BODY!!!

i need to make bumper stickers saying "say yes to pot, SAY NO TO THE VCHIP!!!"


you guys think ill make some money off of this? lmao

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Haha yeah, just make sure you don't have anything in your car ever!

Originally Posted by We TaRdED

like what? huh? i dont think you referring to what i think your referring to...