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Old 04-13-2008, 05:52 PM
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I'm currently doing a research paper on Kirov's murder, debating whether it was necessary for Stalin and also very convenient. But through my extensive amount of reading and researching on various websites I've discovered Stalin's huge admiration for Hitler and the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. Stalin truly believed that Hitler was a genius and a very admirable man. I believe that Stalin learned from Hitlers ways and it lead into the Purges. Stalin needed a way to get rid of any threats, those that would prevent him from obtaining and then keeping ultimate control over Russia. He may or may not have chosen to use the Purges as the way to deal with this issue if it had not been for Hitler. He did alter a few of Hitler's methods in the way that he used show trials to demonstrate that his victims were guilty and simultaneously he created a great terror over Russia which gave him even more control. Hitler just killed the mother fuckers.

Stalin was a violent man but would he have gone this far if Hitler didn't cause the Holocaust?


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Old 04-13-2008, 07:08 PM
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Hi, Cookieisbaked ...

If you haven't read it, this book will tell you all you need to know about Stalin's mindset and his reign of terror: http://www.harperacademic.com/catalog/excerpt_xml.asp?isbn=0060007761

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Progressives would rather not discuss Uncle Joe.
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Progressives would rather not discuss Uncle Joe.
Not discuss Uncle Joe? Hell man, they are/were in support of him.

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Old 04-13-2008, 07:39 PM
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To them, he was an aberration. Totalitarianism cannot exist in the socialist economic model. He's the crazy uncle nobody talks about. Now Che Guevara, there's a hip leftist icon! I wonder how many of the people who wear the shirts knows they wear the face of a ruthless murderer on their t-shirts.
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To them, he was an aberration. Totalitarianism cannot exist in the socialist economic model. He's the crazy uncle nobody talks about. Now Che Guevara, there's a hip leftist icon! I wonder how many of the people who wear the shirts knows they wear the face of a ruthless murderer on their t-shirts.
Oh man, JO. You missed a great discussion here in the forum awhile back pertaining to the "compassionate revolutionary" Che' Guevara. You should have seen the libbie/commies try to defend the guy. It was a real laugh.

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He might have gotten a little bit from adolf, but what stalin did has been done for thousands of years by the mulititude of absolute rulers from the pharohs, through greece, and rome, the ancient chinese dynasties, some a little less vicious then the others, but all have in common the desire of the rulers to purge the societies of any threat, or rivalry, and in some cases like joe stalin went to the extreme in the amount crimes committed to keep grasp of the total control and fear over the society.
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All one has to do to understand the terror inflicted upon the citizens of the Soviet states is to talk to someone who lived under it.

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To equate progressives to Stalin is idiotic. I'd say a much better dictate would be to link righties to Hitler. They are for torture and agression, endless war and spying on their own people, suspending Habeas-Corpus, etc. Sounds hitlerian to me. Anyway, that premis is dead and stinkin. Progressives if anything want more freedom not less. We sure didn't want all the spy crap and the suspension of habeas-corpus. We don't like renditioning and torture. I guess to be a real man, you have to like that crap, eh? Well not in my world dipshit.
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I thought you were trying to be nicer in your posts, Med. How's that working out for you? You're only mean to the guys who are mean to you, right?
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