
06-18-2008, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by medicineman Duhhh, I live in Vegas. It gets plenty hot here as it is. | Your the one that opts to live where you do. Move up north if you don't like the heat. I can assure you, that man has had a nil effect on climate change. Once again I ask the question WHAT INDUCED CLIMATE CHANGE(THE UPS AND DOWNS OF ICE AGES AND GLOBAL WARMING PERIODS) BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION!
The Jurassic period had purportedly over ~10 times(up to ~4000ppm compared to present day ~350ppm) the amount of co2 concentrations as present day.
MM, don't claim Global Warming is an eminent threat because you live in the hot desert and you don't want it to get warmer. But rather, refute my claims with scientific evidence to support your claims. Stating your opinion based upon your opted circumstance is not acceptable. So, DONT LIVE IN THE DESERT IF YOU DON'T LIKE HOT WEATHER. AND DON'T BLAME IT ON GLOBAL WARMING WHEN YOU KNOW ITS INNATELY HOT THERE ALL THE TIME.
I would be a fool if I lived in a rain forest and blamed the rain and humidity on man. (No offense) Do you honestly think the weather has been stupendously different than that of 40 or 50 years ago?
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06-18-2008, 09:57 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the forest.
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| | Send it here, med. Did you see my post on Mr. Gore's own household energy consumption?  | 
06-18-2008, 10:52 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
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Originally Posted by Seamaiden Send it here, med. Did you see my post on Mr. Gore's own household energy consumption?  | No, I didn't. I usually don't read things I don't care about like Gores energy consumption, after all, he is a rich man. I'm sure he lives like one, and I'd assume that would entail consuming lots of energy. Yes I see the hypocracy, I'm sure that was your inferance. Whats your address, sand will be on the way,~LOL~. BTW, I went to the FBI auction and bought a nice 35 ft. 5th wheel trailer for 600.00. Already got it delivered and set up. Now I can move my kids out of the house, Just needs some cleaning, I'll be lucky if I can get them to do that.
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06-18-2008, 02:26 PM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the forest.
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Originally Posted by medicineman No, I didn't. I usually don't read things I don't care about like Gores energy consumption, after all, he is a rich man. I'm sure he lives like one, and I'd assume that would entail consuming lots of energy. Yes I see the hypocracy, I'm sure that was your inferance. Whats your address, sand will be on the way,~LOL~. BTW, I went to the FBI auction and bought a nice 35 ft. 5th wheel trailer for 600.00. Already got it delivered and set up. Now I can move my kids out of the house, Just needs some cleaning, I'll be lucky if I can get them to do that. | NO SHIT! 35' trailer..??? And it's in good condition? I'm assuming you're talking about a travel trailer. Sacre bleu, if that's true that is an amazing deal.
And yes, absolutely that's my inference. I expect a person such as Gore, ESPECIALLY with all the spouting he's done and still does, with all the proselytizing, and now his push behind Obama, to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. At that point he's become worse than Barbara fucking Streisand. Think about it, who better to be able to cut such a thing as power consumption than a rich man who can easily afford all the solar and other "alternative" forms of green energy than an exceedingly rich man? | 
06-18-2008, 04:49 PM
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| | I ask you to explain the vanishing glaciers, I'd appreciate it being an Alaskan. | 
06-18-2008, 05:39 PM
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| | I met al gore once at a phi theta kappa convention in nashville. Relaly nice guy and pretty funny. 
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06-18-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by We TaRdED Your the one that opts to live where you do. Move up north if you don't like the heat. I can assure you, that man has had a nil effect on climate change. Once again I ask the question WHAT INDUCED CLIMATE CHANGE(THE UPS AND DOWNS OF ICE AGES AND GLOBAL WARMING PERIODS) BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION!
The Jurassic period had purportedly over ~10 times(up to ~4000ppm compared to present day ~350ppm) the amount of co2 concentrations as present day.
MM, don't claim Global Warming is an eminent threat because you live in the hot desert and you don't want it to get warmer. But rather, refute my claims with scientific evidence to support your claims. Stating your opinion based upon your opted circumstance is not acceptable. So, DONT LIVE IN THE DESERT IF YOU DON'T LIKE HOT WEATHER. AND DON'T BLAME IT ON GLOBAL WARMING WHEN YOU KNOW ITS INNATELY HOT THERE ALL THE TIME.
I would be a fool if I lived in a rain forest and blamed the rain and humidity on man. (No offense) Do you honestly think the weather has been stupendously different than that of 40 or 50 years ago?
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~ | 3/6 largest hurricanes occurred in '05 so that suggests yes. Glaciers are in retreat, droughts have doubled in 30 years, not to mention hurricanes happening in places never recorded in history prior. | 
06-18-2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MatanuskaThunderFuck 3/6 largest hurricanes occurred in '05 so that suggests yes. Glaciers are in retreat, droughts have doubled in 30 years, not to mention hurricanes happening in places never recorded in history prior. | Where I live, this winter had the most snowfall than in the last 4 or 5 years, whats your point?
The summer gets hot and the winter gets cold, earths climate is always changing. Back in the 30's or 40's they were talking about global cooling as opposed to "global warming".
So 3/6th the largest hurricanes occurred in 05..... ok...... If the global warming is as true as Al Gore depicts, than I would expect every year would get worse and worse. So my question is, why would last winter (2008...) have unprecedented snowfall(and cold temps) from the last 5 years?
I'm not saying co2 isn't a greenhouse gas, and I'm not saying co2 doesn't have any effect of temps. What I am saying is that our co2 production is approx ~3% of the total emitted co2 into the atmosphere. I am saying that over ~70% of green house gases are water vapor. I am saying that the graph that Al Gore depicts and says co2 changes temps IS WRONG- its scientifically proven that temps actually change co2 levels and not vice-versa. I am saying that the earth goes through natural ups and downs as far as global warming or global cooling is concerned.
I'm saying pollution should be more of a concern than co2 output. Pollution is undoubtedly BAD for the environment but co2 is not a pollutant! I am not advocating car emissions but rather stating that the co2 from the emissions have an utterly diminutive effect on our globe. I strongly advocate hydrogen powered cars whos only byproduct is water. I am conscious of the environment but I am a realist at the same time.
If we wanted to really prevent "global warming" than the best thing for us to do would be to cover the ocean to prevent water evaporation. That would surely cool the earth fast! Our current output of co2 has a nil effect on "global warming".
If you have any questions on any of my statements than I would surely post a link/reference for you to see.
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06-18-2008, 07:20 PM
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| | Are you claiming pollution causes global warming or the ocean? | 
06-18-2008, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MatanuskaThunderFuck Are you claiming pollution causes global warming or the ocean? | Do you think I implied that?
I am not saying that pollution has anything to do with global warming. I am saying co2 and pollution are two different entities. Co2 is natural, we breath in oxygen and breath out co2, the plants breath in co2 and breath out co2- Its a symbiotic relationship, and I do not consider co2 a pollutant one bit. Without co2 our world would not be possible. We need co2 for our plants to survive, as we know it.
I am saying pollution like smog and the other harmful byproducts of burning gasoline are not good for the environment. The same reason why you don't want to stick your face into the exhaust pipe of a car. The bad byproducts go into the air and eventually have to go somewhere. Co2 is not a harmful byproduct of gasoline! Co2 is our friend!
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