Poisoning our water: The Fluoride Lie - Page 11

We TaRdED · #**101** 05-02-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

HHO.. there is no such beast.

H2O.. well, now that is water.

Electrolysis makes H2 and O2.. they burn CLEAN in any gasoline engine.

I've been working on this for some time.. soon I will have a motorcycle running on hydrogen.

HHO is AKA browns gas.. what are you talking about there is no such a beast? electrolysis makes two H and one O, hence h2o(two hydrogen and one oxygen).. i have studied it a little bit when i was in high school.

Brown's gas", after Yull Brown who received a utility patent for a series cell common-ducted electrolyzer in 1977 and 1978 (the term "Brown's gas" is not used in his patents, but "a mixture of oxygen and hydrogen" is referenced).[8][10] Brown's torches also used an electric arc to increase the temperature of the flame (called atomic welding):[8]

quote from Oxyhydrogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

good luck with your bike, and make sure you post your work on youtube if you get a working product, to teach the masses. this is the only way we can beat the oil companies- an informed public so we will demand change!!!

did you even watch the link i just posted? because it has nothing to do with HHO

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Originally Posted by medicineman

Watch out, the oil companies may make you dissapear.

dont listen to MM, there are plenty of people tinkering with the technology!!!

the only thing you have to watch out for is producing HHO at a rate over-unity... if you do this than you might have a problem due to the fact that you will be getting a bigger output then an input(study a guy named stan meyer with his electrolysis process YouTube - Stan Meyer - hydrogen oxygen ( HHO ) - Zero Point Energy).. if stan meyers isnt a con artist than he was really onto something.

Enigma · #**102** 05-02-2008, 06:33 PM

Electrolysis is nothing old.

H2O will split into H2 and O2, not H2 and O.

O doesn't exist in nature, O2 does.

HHO is nothing but a clever way to cover up ancient technology of hitting water, mixed with electrolytes in aqueous solution, with direct current. When this happens O2 and H2 will be produced, yielding a clean burning source of fuel.

Anyone can do it.. it really isn't that hard. I met a fellow that increased his gas mileage by 14 miles per gallon by adding a back-yard generator under the hood.

Again, HHO is just a name used to say H2O.. nothing special.. if anything, he "reinvented the wheel."

Another thing.. I'm still waiting for someone to show me how you can 'make' energy.. all of these claims of more energy out-put, of any system, than the in-put have yet to be proven.. just a bunch of marketing.

We TaRdED · #**103** 05-03-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

Electrolysis is nothing old.

H2O will split into H2 and O2, not H2 and O. YOU MIGHT BE CORRECT, BUT FOR EVERY O2 MOLECULE THERE HAS TO BE TWO H2 OR ANOTHER WORDS, THERE HAS TO BE TWO SPLIT H20 MOLECULES IN ORDER FOR TWO O TO COMBINE INTO O2...

O doesn't exist in nature, O2 does.

HHO is nothing but a clever way to cover up ancient technology of hitting water, mixed with electrolytes in aqueous solution, with direct current. When this happens O2 and H2 will be produced, yielding a clean burning source of fuel.

Anyone can do it.. it really isn't that hard. I met a fellow that increased his gas mileage by 14 miles per gallon by adding a back-yard generator under the hood.

Again, HHO is just a name used to say H2O.. nothing special.. if anything, he "reinvented the wheel."

Another thing.. I'm still waiting for someone to show me how you can 'make' energy.. all of these claims of more energy out-put, of any system, than the in-put have yet to be proven.. just a bunch of marketing.

i was just simply stating that this guy stan meyers claimed to create some resonance frequency(i think he said 20K hz) to expedite the electrolysis process, and that it might be something you want to look into(i haven't done any experiments myself).

another thing i think you might want to do it calculate how much it would cost to split ~15 gals of water into pure H2 and O2. also, im curious on how many miles per gallon you can get from water after its been split into the H and O elements....

quintessentially, i would like to know the ratio of cost per mile. cost-electric cost, maybe use 12cents/Kwh for an estimate. right now im getting ~18 miles per gallon or 20 cents per mile.(figuring $3.50/gal)..

the reason i would like to know this is because i heard it would cost roughly 20 dollars to pay the electric company in order to break down a "gas" tank of water...( i also heard HHO is 4 times more efficient than gasoline.) i heard you could travel across country with the amount of HHO produced from a "gas" tank(~15gal) filled with water.

so if we could spend roughly 20 dollars to the electric company and travel across country, it would be a steal IMHO

also, this link below touches on the fluoride subject too.. start watching at ~41 mins into the vid

Esoteric Agenda - Sprword.com

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ViRedd · #**104** 05-03-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by ViRedd

The AIDS epidemic started, and was spread, in this country among the Gay population in San Francisco. If you want to read the history of it, pick up the book titled "And The Band Played On." The first three chapters is all you need to read. The rest of the book is technical medical jargon. Here's a review:

Michael Fumento reviews: "And the Band Played On."

Vi

Enigma sez ....

I bet you believe everything that you read, don't ya?!

Get real man.

No, contrary to your assertion I do not believe everything I read. I'd be delighted to read your "factual" explaination as to how AIDS was spread in this country and where the initial contact was made. So ... have at it.

Vi

Enigma · #**105** 05-03-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by We TaRdED

i was just simply stating that this guy stan meyers claimed to create some resonance frequency(i think he said 20K hz) to expedite the electrolysis process, and that it might be something you want to look into(i haven't done any experiments myself).

another thing i think you might want to do it calculate how much it would cost to split ~15 gals of water into pure H2 and O2. also, im curious on how many miles per gallon you can get from water after its been split into the H and O elements....

quintessentially, i would like to know the ratio of cost per mile. cost-electric cost, maybe use 12cents/Kwh for an estimate. right now im getting ~18 miles per gallon or 20 cents per mile.(figuring $3.50/gal)..

the reason i would like to know this is because i heard it would cost roughly 20 dollars to pay the electric company in order to break down a "gas" tank of water...( i also heard HHO is 4 times more efficient than gasoline.) i heard you could travel across country with the amount of HHO produced from a "gas" tank(~15gal) filled with water.

so if we could spend roughly 20 dollars to the electric company and travel across country, it would be a steal IMHO

also, this link below touches on the fluoride subject too.. start watching at ~41 mins into the vid

Esoteric Agenda - Sprword.com

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HHO is no such thing.

Drop it.

It is HYDROGEN and OXYGEN.

Experiments estimate 100 miles per 4 ounces of water. This is also dependent on the system used to create HYDROGEN and OXYGEN from water using ELECTROLYSIS.

Of course, a vehicle getting 30 miles per gallon of gasoline will be substantially lower than a vehicle getting 70 miles per gallon of gasoline.

Keep in mind gasoline is a HYDROCARBON. Which means, roughly, it is LESS EFFICIENT than HYDROGEN alone.

Besides, it was the H-Bomb.. not the G-Bomb.

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We TaRdED · #**106** 05-04-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

Experiments estimate 100 miles per 4 ounces of water. This is also dependent on the system used to create HYDROGEN and OXYGEN from water using ELECTROLYSIS.

Of course, a vehicle getting 30 miles per gallon of gasoline will be substantially lower than a vehicle getting 70 miles per gallon of gasoline.

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"Experiments estimate 100 miles per 4 ounces of water. This is also dependent on the system used to create HYDROGEN and OXYGEN from water using ELECTROLYSIS."

ok, this is GREAT infomation (128fl oz/gal) that would mean you can run ~3200 miles from a single gallon OF WATER!!!! WHOOHOOO.. (thats considering using the same car as above and getting aprox 100miles/4oz of water)

now the question for its viability is, how much would it cost(maybe estimate and average cost of 12cents/Kwh) to convert one gallon of water into hydrogen and oxygen????

the savings will be incredible!!! and the only byproduct/"waste" will be pure water that you could literally drink(considering your guts of your car is clean)..

We TaRdED · #**107** 05-04-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

The AIDS epidemic started, and was spread, in this country among the Gay population in San Francisco. If you want to read the history of it, pick up the book titled "And The Band Played On." The first three chapters is all you need to read. The rest of the book is technical medical jargon. Here's a review:

Michael Fumento reviews: "And the Band Played On."

Vi

YouTube - Vaccines - Alex Jones

start watching at 3mins Redd

im not telling you this is truth, but maybe something that could be plausable

Enigma · #**108** 05-04-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by We TaRdED

"Experiments estimate 100 miles per 4 ounces of water. This is also dependent on the system used to create HYDROGEN and OXYGEN from water using ELECTROLYSIS."

ok, this is GREAT infomation (128fl oz/gal) that would mean you can run ~3200 miles from a single gallon OF WATER!!!! WHOOHOOO.. (thats considering using the same car as above and getting aprox 100miles/4oz of water)

now the question for its viability is, how much would it cost(maybe estimate and average cost of 12cents/Kwh) to convert one gallon of water into hydrogen and oxygen????

the savings will be incredible!!! and the only byproduct/"waste" will be pure water that you could literally drink(considering your guts of your car is clean)..

I wouldn't drink it.. but atleast the pollution would go down quite a bit.. the trick is getting enough people to use old carbuerated vehicles.. or atleast getting a true gas-injected vehicle.

See, gasloline will not ignite when it is in liquid form. It must be vaporized first. Since Hydrogen is already in gaseous form, and it is more powerful than gasoline, I'd imagine some pretty damn good numbers.

The problem we face is that pure water DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY.

Electrolytes such as table salt (Sodium Chloride NaCl) and baking soda (Sodium bicarbonate NaHCO3) work well aiding in the electrolysis process by allowing the electrons to be 'picked' up by Hydrogen and Oxygen.

So, sea water would be perfect.. or just keep a box of one of these substances will the vehicle along with water.

The other thing we have to worry about it OXIDATION of the ELECTRODES.

SO, stainless steel.. copper.. gold.. platinum.. iridium.. would be basic metals we'd have to use bassed upon conductivity, accessability, and the resistance of them becoming oxidized (pretty much destroyed).

Now, there was a documented test vehicle that went from Los Angeles, California to New York, New York on only 22 GALLONS of WATER.

Dankdude · #**109** 05-04-2008, 08:37 AM

Vi I hate to break it to you but AIDS was created in a Laboratory.

medicineman · #**110** 05-04-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by may

Why have you not disappered?

That is a reciprocal question!