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Old 02-09-2007, 06:07 PM
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US Rogue State

1. In December 2001, the United States officially withdrew from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, gutting the landmark agreement-the first time in the nuclear era that the US renounced a major arms control accord.
2. 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention ratified by 144 nations including the United States. In July 2001 the US walked out of a London conference to discuss a 1994 protocol designed to strengthen the Convention by providing for on-site inspections. At Geneva in November 2001, US Undersecretary of State John Bolton stated that "the protocol is dead," at the same time accusing Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria of violating the Convention but offering no specific allegations or supporting evidence.
3. UN Agreement to Curb the International Flow of Illicit Small Arms, July 2001: the US was the only nation to oppose it.
4. April 2001, the US was not re-elected to the UN Human Rights Commission, after years of withholding dues to the UN (including current dues of $244 million)-and after having forced the UN to lower its share of the UN budget from 25 to 22 percent. (In the Human Rights Commission, the US stood virtually alone in opposing resolutions supporting lower-cost access to HIV/AIDS drugs, acknowledging a basic human right to adequate food, and calling for a moratorium on the death penalty.)
5. International Criminal Court (ICC) Treaty, to be set up in The Hague to try political leaders and military personnel charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. Signed in Rome in July 1998, the Treaty was approved by 120 countries, with 7 opposed (including the US). In October 2001 Great Britain became the 42nd nation to sign. In December 2001 the US Senate again added an amendment to a military appropriations bill that would keep US military personnel from obeying the jurisdiction of the proposed ICC.
6. Land Mine Treaty, banning land mines; signed in Ottawa in December 1997 by 122 nations. The United States refused to sign, along with Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Egypt, and Turkey. President Clinton rejected the Treaty, claiming that mines were needed to protect South Korea against North Korea's "overwhelming military advantage." He stated that the US would "eventually" comply, in 2006; this was disavowed by President Bush in August 2001.
7. Kyoto Protocol of 1997, for controlling global warming: declared "dead" by President Bush in March 2001. In November 2001, the Bush administration shunned negotiations in Marrakech (Morocco) to revise the accord, mainly by watering it down in a vain attempt to gain US approval.
8. In May 2001, refused to meet with European Union nations to discuss, even at lower levels of government, economic espionage and electronic surveillance of phone calls, e-mail, and faxes (the US "Echelon" program),
9. Refused to participate in Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)-sponsored talks in Paris, May 2001, on ways to crack down on off-shore and other tax and money-laundering havens.
10. Refused to join 123 nations pledged to ban the use and production of anti-personnel bombs and mines, February 2001
11. September 2001: withdrew from International Conference on Racism, bringing together 163 countries in Durban, South Africa
12. International Plan for Cleaner Energy: G-8 group of industrial nations (US, Canada, Japan, Russia, Germany, France, Italy, UK), July 2001: the US was the only one to oppose it.
13. Enforcing an illegal boycott of Cuba, now being made tighter. In the UN in October 2001, the General Assembly passed a resolution, for the tenth consecutive year, calling for an end to the US embargo, by a vote of 167 to 3 (the US, Israel, and the Marshall Islands in opposition).
14. Comprehensive [Nuclear] Test Ban Treaty. Signed by 164 nations and ratified by 89 including France, Great Britain, and Russia; signed by President Clinton in 1996 but rejected by the Senate in 1999. The US is one of 13 nonratifiers among countries that have nuclear weapons or nuclear power programs. In November 2001, the US forced a vote in the UN Committee on Disarmament and Security to demonstrate its opposition to the Test Ban Treaty.
15. In 1986 the International Court of Justice (The Hague) ruled that the US was in violation of international law for "unlawful use of force" in Nicaragua, through its actions and those of its Contra proxy army. The US refused to recognize the Court's jurisdiction. A UN resolution calling for compliance with the Court's decision was approved 94-2 (US and Israel voting no).
16. In 1984 the US quit UNESCO (UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) and ceased its payments for UNESCO's budget, over the New World Information and Communication Order (NWICO) project designed to lessen world media dependence on the "big four" wire agencies (AP, UPI, Agence France-Presse, Reuters). The US charged UNESCO with "curtailment of press freedom," as well as mismanagement and other faults, despite a 148-1 in vote in favor of NWICO in the UN. UNESCO terminated NWICO in 1989; the US nonetheless refused to rejoin. In 1995 the Clinton administration proposed rejoining; the move was blocked in Congress and Clinton did not press the issue. In February 2000 the US finally paid some of its arrears to the UN but excluded UNESCO, which the US has not rejoined.
17. Optional Protocol, 1989, to the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, aimed at abolition of the death penalty and containing a provision banning the execution of those under 18. The US has neither signed nor ratified and specifically exempts itself from the latter provision, making it one of five countries that still execute juveniles (with Saudi Arabia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Nigeria). China abolished the practice in 1997, Pakistan in 2000.
18. 1979 UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women. The only countries that have signed but not ratified are the US, Afghanistan, Sao Tome and Principe.
19. The US has signed but not ratified the 1989 UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which protects the economic and social rights of children. The only other country not to ratify is Somalia, which has no functioning government.
20. UN International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, 1966, covering a wide range of rights and monitored by the Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The US signed in 1977 but has not ratified.
21. UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 1948. The US finally ratified in 1988, adding several "reservations" to the effect that the US Constitution and the "advice and consent" of the Senate are required to judge whether any "acts in the course of armed conflict" constitute genocide. The reservations are rejected by Britain, Italy, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, Greece, Mexico, Estonia, and others.
22. Is the status of "we're number one!" Rogue overcome by generous foreign aid to given less fortunate countries? The three best aid providers, measured by the foreign aid percentage of their gross domestic products, are Denmark (1.01%), Norway (0.91%), and the Netherlands (0.79), The three worst: USA (0.10%), UK (0.23%), Australia, Portugal, and Austria (all 0.26).
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Hey genious, that's what everyone on this site does to put forth their opinions. I tried the reason platform and all I got was flack, where's your proof shit. and when I ask for proof from others they cut and paste, so genious tell me what it is you're chewing my ass about. I feel that you just don't like my views and will say anything to diss me, so let me say this about that Fuck you! :s4:
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Hegemonist fantasy...there is not a shred of anything but the "proof" of contemptuous hatred on display by the hegemonist writer of piece.
lol.....proof hahaha.
Overwhelmingly biased perspective.


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Hegemonist fantasy...there is not a shred of anything but the "proof" of contemptuous hatred on display by the hegemonist writer of piece.
lol.....proof hahaha.
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And just what is it you post here Mr. know it all? Same shit, different perspective.
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Yup, you must be correct, the US is the font of all evil in the world and has victimized the entire globe without contributing anything positive to the human condition.
And it's true simply because the author of piece says so.
Silly Me.

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Yup, you must be correct, the US is the font of all evil in the world and has victimized the entire globe without contributing anything positive to the human condition.
And it's true simply because the author of piece says so.
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And as I said, What about your posts, are they from the mouth of God or just like mine from a person. Untill you can come up with the ultimate truth (which really doesn't exist on this planet) then our posts will be be either by our own words or someone elses, are there differing opinions on the same subject, well yes there are, it's just mine are right and yours are wrong and the future will prove it. Dubya will go down in history as the worst president ever, mark my words. And then what, will you switch sides and say I knew it, yup he sure was an asshole, or will you go down with the ship and go around saying, well, I never knew he was doing that, probably exactly what you'll do, claim innocence. Anyone that condones the assholes agenda is as guilty as him and should be tried along with him. after all it was himself that said "You're either with us or against us" Let it be known I'm definently against him. And don't go spinning this to mean I'm against the troops or the country. Nothing could be further from the truth but that is the spin that you dickwads always put on it. Your either for Bush or against the country, what a pile of crap.
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Why don't we discuss issues?
For instance what is your opinion of the idea that the US actually perpetrates more bad than good deeds worldwide? Would the world be a better place if the US had not existed?
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For instance what is your opinion of the idea that the US actually perpetrates more bad than good deeds worldwide? Would the world be a better place if the US had not existed?
Now you're talking. First, you can't ask such a generalized question that demands a yes or no answer. Obviously the simple answer would be no. That being said, we must elucidate the premise.... Would the American Indians be better off, Who knows, I'm pretty sure there would be more of them. Would Europe be better off under Hitler, I doubt it. Yes the Us as a country does much good world wide, But and this is a huge But, It is not because of our government. I love the USA and what the people of the USA do for the world. Your hero Bush has trampled on most everything that helps humanity with the exception of increasing Aids funding to Africa which I'd say any president would have done considering the pressure to do so. Now do you want me to tell you what I think is wrong with the government, I basically have been yelling that at the top of my lungs, so I surmise you don't want to hear that. I'll just say this: when this government does any favors for a foriegn government, they expect to be payed back in spades. I think we have very different Ideas on how our country should be run. I am of the social persuasion with a libertarian background and you are basically the exact opposite. I am for choice on abortion and you are a life first person that considers it murder. I am for peace and you like war. I am for taking care of people in this country and you'd rather spend our treasure on Iraq. I am for ending the idiotic war and letting the middle east sort out their own problems, and you are obviously for continuing on with the madness with the naive perspective that we can solve the worlds problems. Hey they have to sell the oil somewhere, we are just as able to buy it as anyone. There are many things behind the scenes of this war that you don't want to aknowledge, all the oil players and weapons players and contractors, Basically the business of war that I am opposed to and you think is AOK. Hey, I doubt if we'll ever be on the same page. you have some sense of patrioctic duty that I see as Idiotic. If you stop and step back from all the years of brainwash that has been layed on you and take a neutral view of the situation, how can you not see all the evil players behind this war. This astounds me, especially when you three guys claim to be free thinkers (Libertarians) 7X=Vi=Wavels. I get frustrated and start calling names as I can't imagine such thick headedness. "Thick as a Brick" I think explains a lot. Plus you all like to gang up on me and chortle with glee, thats when the name calling begins as no amount of posting will convince you three brick heads. So what do you expect. Do I have the world figured out, Hell no, do you, hell no. I'll give you my opinion on anything you ask. Posting that my opinions are infantile and boring will bring a like response. To be honest, this forum is really starting to bore me. All I do is argue with right wing idiots, I might like to try and give it up, although in winter when there isn't much to do it eats time.
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