
05-03-2008, 10:04 AM
|  | HappilyCarryingChild#2 Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The NOW, Ohio. =)
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| | Americans won't stop using cars and gases- Americans are not willing to take the step. And the legislation trying to be passed and being used in other countries has nothing to do with stopping these companies- it has to do with taxing the people and selling 'carbon credits' to the corporations so they can continue with their business as usual. Things will not drastically change for these companies- and the people will not stop using these companies as long as they are available, regardless of how much they think it's hurting the environment. People can SAY they care all they want- it is the action that makes their words true.
This scam, if let to play out, will effectively tax the majority, profit the few, yet also, make it even harder for smaller privately owned business to ever try to merge into these fields of business.
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05-03-2008, 10:08 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the planet Earth, just like you! :D
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Originally Posted by medicineman My contention here is the ones with the most to lose if Global warming is taken seriously are the power and Oil companies, the automobile Mfgrs, the coal coalition, the chemical plants etc. and all the politicos that take graft from all of them. Can you prove me wrong on this? | lol, how do you figure? the people who use entities that produce co2 will be charged a direct tax on this..
thats like saying that the car companies/manufactures will be given speeding tickets because they produced the cars which the people abused. it doesnt work that way, and the end cost will be given to the consumers.
the only thing they want is another tax, this time on the world populace for anyone that produced Co2...
also, you know that the big companies sleep with the gov't anyways and i doubt they would get taxed on their co2 output.
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05-03-2008, 10:11 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in Texas
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| | Global Warming is the result of a cyclic weather pattern.... Not man's fault.
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05-03-2008, 10:19 AM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the planet Earth, just like you! :D
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| | i personally believe more co2 is actually not a bad thing... it creates bigger, healthier, robust, vigorous, and just better plants which will create more oxygen in return... within limits obviously....JMHO
pollution on the other hand is bad!!!! co2 is natural and in proportion(under 1500ppm, our air is currently ~300ppm) is completely safe and healthy for our environment.
what we need to do is look more into using hemp as a catalyst to save our trees. we need to use hydrogen to run our cars.
oil and fossil fuels are not the answer, just think about if we never struck oil in the first place, im sure our ingenious minds could think of dozens of other alternative fuel sources to power our growing world... the only hinder now, is the oil companies monopoly controlling our gov't to an extent which discards novel ingenious alternative sources. YouTube - Grow more pot! Part 1
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05-03-2008, 11:12 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
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Originally Posted by Dankdude Global Warming is the result of a cyclic weather pattern.... Not man's fault. | Geeze Dank, I expected more insight from you. You actually haven't seen the stastistics on greenhouse gasses then eh? My MY, a person with your intellect being duped by big oil, big coal, the corporate poluters. I am amazed.
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05-03-2008, 12:18 PM
|  | Mr.Ganja Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the planet Earth, just like you! :D
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Originally Posted by medicineman You actually haven't seen the stastistics on greenhouse gasses then eh? | Do show us MM, I'm curious as to what stats you are talking about  | 
05-03-2008, 01:32 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
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| | Greenhouse gases are those released to the air which trap radiation from the sun, leading to a warming of the earth’s atmosphere. The Kyoto Protocol is an international treaty bringing many of the world's developed nations together in an effort to limit greenhouse gas emissions and reduce the effects of global warming. Six specific gases that contribute towards global warming have set targets for reduction under this protocol. These are carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons, and sulphur hexafluoride. You must admit these are man made, well maybe not methane, but the rest, If all the natural gases were just cruising along without mans contributions, do you really think there would be this much global warming going on. Just the fact that there are 5-6 billion humans on the planet, eating, smoking, shitting, farting, driving, bathing, using heat and refridgeration, is enough to raise the ambient temperature. Have you ever been stuck in an elevator with twenty sweating people, me either, but I'll bet the temp goes up.
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05-03-2008, 02:12 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
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| | The Koyoto Treaty is an economic disaster ready to happen. There is no proof that Man is the cause of so called Global Warming. The earth goes through temperature cycles ... and has since time began. There are huge amounts of money at stake here ... and that's the scam of Global Warming. Vi
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05-03-2008, 07:00 PM
|  | HappilyCarryingChild#2 Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The NOW, Ohio. =)
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Originally Posted by medicineman Have you ever been stuck in an elevator with twenty sweating people, me either, but I'll bet the temp goes up. | What do body temperatures have to do with CO2?
Why is this 'global warming movement' so anti-humanistic? I'm so sick of the propaganda, 'if only those damn humans weren't here, the earth would be a great place to live'.
The historical geological evidence shows that temperature always starts rising before co2 increases.. geological evidence also shows that co2 has been much much higher. Geological evidence also shows that the earth's temperatures have been much higher. Evidence also shows that our air contains less OXYGEN now more than ever, especially in metropolitan areas.
What do we give plants so they are more productive? Co2... What do humans need to perform better? Oxygen.. What increases oxygen? Plant life converting co2 into oxygen.
At higher levels of co2, plants grow faster, have heavier yields, and are more comfortable with warmer temperatures.
At about 300pm of co2 in our normal air.. our plants are STARVING for co2. As growers, WE SHOULD KNOW THIS.
We're having more and more food shortages in the world, and ever rising food prices.. but they want to starve the crops more?!?!
Please people, just think. Stop with the double think. You can't reasonably understand the co2/oxygen circle and still think higher co2 levels is a bad thing... it's the LACK of co2 we need to be concerned about.. honestly, we should have factories PRODUCING co2...
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05-03-2008, 07:32 PM
|  | Teaching How To Roll Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Wild, Wild West
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| | I think it's all the damn cattle we're all raising. Bovine flatulence is a serious issue ya know. Damn cows...  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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