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    Default Democrats from Illinois use Drug War as an excuse to spy on you.

    I recently moved from a place where marijuana was practically legal to a place in Illinois where each milligram you possess lands you another year in prison (only a slight exaggeration). In addition, the police absolutely love making pot arrests. A friend of mine had his car searched recently and the police officer actually collected all the little pieces of dried leaves and specs of dirt off of the floor of his vehicle and claimed he was going to have them tested to see if any of it was cannabis.

    Recently, I see that the Democratic Governor signed a new bill into law allows police to bypass any wiretapping laws if they suspect that drugs are involved. So now, the police here can wiretap anyone they want without a warrant and justify it by claiming that they thought drugs were involved.

    To me this is using the drug war as an excuse to invade your privacy and shit on your civil liberties. It's not even about drugs anymore.

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    why did you move to police state central?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deprave View Post
    why did you move to police state central?
    I didn't know what I was getting into. It's like a third world country here. On the other hand, everything is cheap as hell here, except for weed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedspirit View Post
    It's not even about drugs anymore.
    I have some news for you that may come as a shock......



    it NEVER was about drugs.
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    OF course it is about drugs. If it were about anything else, the population at large will be up in arms, but so long as they see these laws as protecting them from the drug addled fiends, any law will be ok. I have had discussions with people who were perfectly willing to open their houses up for random searches if it meant that we could rid ourselves of the monsterous drug epidemic. Remember that a large group of people distrust government above all other entities, but the moment that same government labels someone a criminal, or a drug user, that government is absolutely right and always trustworthy.
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    Are you saying that government officials are using a law intended for one purpose in order to further the cause of another? Ever notice they never repeal many laws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by canndo View Post
    OF course it is about drugs. If it were about anything else, the population at large will be up in arms, but so long as they see these laws as protecting them from the drug addled fiends, any law will be ok. I have had discussions with people who were perfectly willing to open their houses up for random searches if it meant that we could rid ourselves of the monsterous drug epidemic. Remember that a large group of people distrust government above all other entities, but the moment that same government labels someone a criminal, or a drug user, that government is absolutely right and always trustworthy.
    You make some good points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spandy View Post
    I have some news for you that may come as a shock......



    it NEVER was about drugs.
    Good point. In this particular case, connecting it to the drug war is a tough sell. The police can already have powers to get around warrants if it happens to be the middle of the night and no judge is available. This new law never requires a judges approval. The only role a judge would have is deciding whether the wiretap was admissible in a trial. Police can now wiretap all the time. They don't even have to tell a judge they're doing it.

    http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/..._illinois_drug

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    One more reason to vote for the guy who would put a judge in SCOTUS that is not like Scalia or Alito or Thomas. We need all the leverage we can get when it comes to LEO's misdirected enforcement.


    One of the reasons we have the laws we do with regard to police proceedure is because of the Conservative side of the court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoDrama View Post
    Are you saying that government officials are using a law intended for one purpose in order to further the cause of another? Ever notice they never repeal many laws?
    My main objection to SB1070 in Arizona
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