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    In the debate over new laws meant to curb voter fraud in places like Florida, Democrats always charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of liberal voting blocs like blacks and young people, while Republicans just laugh at such ludicrous and offensive accusations. That is, every Republican except for Florida’s former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer, who, scorned by his party and in deep legal trouble, blew the lid off what he claims was a systemic effort to suppress the black vote. In a 630-page deposition recorded over two days in late May, Greer, who is on trial for corruption charges, unloaded a litany of charges against the “whack-a-do, right-wing crazies” in his party, including the effort to suppress the black vote.
    In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. “I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting,” he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how “minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party,” according to the AP.

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    i can understand why AZ went redder in 2008 than in 2004, since the GOP candidate was from that state.

    what i can't understand is why every conservative stronghold like utah and south dakota went more blue, yet wide swaths of the south went WAYYYYYYY redder.

    anyone care to explain that to me without invoking the complexion of the democratic candidate in 2008?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    i can understand why AZ went redder in 2008 than in 2004, since the GOP candidate was from that state.

    what i can't understand is why every conservative stronghold like utah and south dakota went more blue, yet wide swaths of the south went WAYYYYYYY redder.

    anyone care to explain that to me without invoking the complexion of the democratic candidate in 2008?

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    Quote Originally Posted by althor View Post
    Yeah, that was all over the news in my area. Go through the reaction of it. The congregation threatened the preachers job, so he took the couple down the street and married them. Since then they have been hit with all kind of backfire. Once again I am not saying it doesnt happen, but when it does, there are consequences. That church is shunned by the community now.
    he finally married them after it became a national news story?

    that just oozes racial sensitivity, exactly the type of racial sensitivity that the south is well known for
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    i can understand why AZ went redder in 2008 than in 2004, since the GOP candidate was from that state.

    what i can't understand is why every conservative stronghold like utah and south dakota went more blue, yet wide swaths of the south went WAYYYYYYY redder.

    anyone care to explain that to me without invoking the complexion of the democratic candidate in 2008?

    What I find interesting about this map is that the traditional stronghold for questions of complexion ... the old plantation South ... is largely blue.

    Maybe the red maps onto tobacco-growing country ... cn

    <edit> no; that's not it either. Some serious tobacco in the Piedmont of MD, VA, CT etc.
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    By Michael Allen, Thu, July 05, 2012In Guin, Alabama, a group of pastors claim they are not racist even though only “white Christians” are invited to their three-day conference this week, which will include a cross burning (video below).
    Residents noticed flyers posted around the town that read: “Annual Pastors Conference All White Christians Invited.”
    Christian Identity Ministries and the Church of God’s Chosen told WIAT-TV that they just didn’t have the “facilities” to accommodate non-whites.
    Christian Identity Ministries Pastor William J. Collier said: “We’re seldom ever have been invited to black Muslim events and we never have been invited to NAACP events and we never have been invited to join Jewish synagogues events and stuff.”
    “It has nothing whatsoever to do with any kind of racism or hate or anything like that. And anybody who would brand it as that would be a racist and a hater themselves, you know.”

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    i'm so stupid someone please explain to me why certain southern states can't change their voting laws until the fed gov says they can? why does the fed gov hate these southern states just because they want to keep black people from voting? it makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannabineer View Post
    What I find interesting about this map is that the traditional stronghold for questions of complexion ... the old plantation South ... is largely blue.

    Maybe the red maps onto tobacco-growing country ... cn

    <edit> no; that's not it either. Some serious tobacco in the Piedmont of MD, VA, CT etc.
    for some odd reasons, the only sections of florida that went redder are the counties that newt did well in this primary season after using every race bait in the book.

    very odd. i'm sure althor will be along shortly to explain the innocence and racial sensitivity behind it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    i'm so stupid someone please explain to me why certain southern states can't change their voting laws until the fed gov says they can? why does the fed gov hate these southern states just because they want to keep black people from voting? it makes no sense.
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    In the debate over new laws meant to curb voter fraud in places like Florida, Democrats always charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of liberal voting blocs like blacks and young people, while Republicans just laugh at such ludicrous and offensive accusations. That is, every Republican except for Florida’s former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer, who, scorned by his party and in deep legal trouble, blew the lid off what he claims was a systemic effort to suppress the black vote. In a 630-page deposition recorded over two days in late May, Greer, who is on trial for corruption charges, unloaded a litany of charges against the “whack-a-do, right-wing crazies” in his party, including the effort to suppress the black vote.
    In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. “I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting,” he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how “minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party,” according to the AP.
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