Did the state make you great?

Originally Posted by althor

Its tricky thats for sure. Considering the top 1% pays 30+ percent of the total taxes, government is FORCED to rely on them.
That is also the reason the government was never intended to receive taxes. The federal government was designed to rely on donations from each individual state.

althor has never heard of the 16th amendment or just chooses to ignore it, just like righties love to do when it conflicts with their ridiculous worldview.

they say they love the constitution until the 14th or 16th or 24th gets in the way.

to GOP clowns like althor, the 2nd amendment is the only one that counts and the first amendment only applies when they want to slut shame women who use birth control pills. people who want to build a mosque where the city has permitted them to build a mosque are NOT covered by the first amendment according to GOP clowns and shills like althor.

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

althor has never heard of the 16th amendment or just chooses to ignore it, just like righties love to do when it conflicts with their ridiculous worldview.

they say they love the constitution until the 14th or 16th or 24th gets in the way.

to GOP clowns like althor, the 2nd amendment is the only one that counts and the first amendment only applies when they want to slut shame women who use birth control pills. people who want to build a mosque where the city has permitted them to build a mosque are NOT covered by the first amendment according to GOP clowns and shills like althor.

Why do you have to call names? Does that make you feel superior? I say it all the time, for the love and peace group, you guys sure get volatile fast. Call me names if it makes you feel better. I dont mind being your support. If I can make you feel more like a man, then I volunteer. What are you trying to prove with your amendment talk? What I refered to was the vision they had when things first started, how it changed or adapted after is the way it always does when politics comes into play. The vision was a federal government that relied upon the state. Now you can get all mad and upset and cry and call names and pat yourself on the back for it, but it doesnt change anything except a small man feeling bigger. Good job, Mr.MAN.

Originally Posted by althor

Why do you have to call names? Does that make you feel superior? I say it all the time, for the love and peace group, you guys sure get volatile fast. Call me names if it makes you feel better. I dont mind being your support. If I can make you feel more like a man, then I volunteer. What are you trying to prove with your amendment talk? What I refered to was the vision they had when things first started, how it changed or adapted after is the way it always does when politics comes into play. The vision was a federal government that relied upon the state. Now you can get all mad and upset and cry and call names and pat yourself on the back for it, but it doesnt change anything except a small man feeling bigger. Good job, Mr.MAN.

i never called you any name, i said clowns and shills LIKE you. i was talking about your peers who also espouse this "i know what the founders wanted better than you do" malarkey.

you sure are sensitive about it though, so i get the feeling i must have hit pretty close to home.

i guess we know who likes to get "all and upset and cry and call names", it was the small man trying to feel bigger. good job, althor. you big man you.

Haha funny, clowns LIKE althor.... but I didnt call anyone names....

haha this is some of the funniest stuff I have seen in weeks. Thanks for the entertainment.

Originally Posted by althor

Haha funny, clowns LIKE althor.... but I didnt call anyone names....

haha this is some of the funniest stuff I have seen in weeks. Thanks for the entertainment.

you could prove me wrong, by telling me what's wrong with my rebuttal to your nonsense, but that's not what you're doing.

c'mon bro, tell me why you know the founding fathers' intentions better than anyone else.

maybe you could also clue us in as to how they liked their blowjobs. did they like it best when you cup their balls? make lots of eye contact? was it better if it was a slave? or did they like to make slaves watch their wives suck their cocks?

these are the real questions that will tell us the true will and intention of the founding fathers that you claim to have the ultimate knowledge of.

Originally Posted by althor

Its tricky thats for sure. Considering the top 1% pays 30+ percent of the total taxes, government is FORCED to rely on them.
That is also the reason the government was never intended to receive taxes. The federal government was designed to rely on donations from each individual state.

Gotta correct you there. The federal government was funded by tariffs. The Tariff Act of 1789 was the first national source of revenue for the United States. Our founders were definitely not a bunch of free trading neoliberals.

Where did you get that bit about the Federal Government being funded by donations? Was that part of the Continental Congress or something? I've never heard of that.

Also the government is going to tax wealth regardless of who has it. It's almost as though you're arguing that the gov't is justified in representing the interest of the 1% because they pay more in taxes. The 1% represents only 1% of the vote, so I doubt very much their contributions to the revenue mean much to any politician. On the other hand, contributions to the campaign means an awful lot.

Originally Posted by bedspirit

Gotta correct you there. The federal government was funded by tariffs. The Tariff Act of 1789 was the first national source of revenue for the United States. Our founders were definitely not a bunch of free trading neoliberals.

Where did you get that bit about the Federal Government being funded by donations? Was that part of the Continental Congress or something? I've never heard of that.

Also the government is going to tax wealth regardless of who has it. It's almost as though you're arguing that the gov't is justified in representing the interest of the 1% because they pay more in taxes. The 1% represents only 1% of the vote, so I doubt very much their contributions to the revenue mean much to any politician. On the other hand, contributions to the campaign means an awful lot.

you're wrong and althor is correct because he gave the founding fathers better head and knows what they wanted better based upon assertion alone.

Originally Posted by althor

Its tricky thats for sure. Considering the top 1% pays 30+ percent of the total taxes, government is FORCED to rely on them.
That is also the reason the government was never intended to receive taxes. The federal government was designed to rely on donations from each individual state.

The federal goverment ran off tariffs from imports.