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Dankdude · #**341** 06-09-2008, 09:34 AM

They have been building a Nuclear Power plant in Bay City Texas for two years.
What most don't understand is that it's not the oil companies who's responsible for the drastic increase of energy prices. It's the Market Speculators. This is a prime example of why the markets need to be regulated.
These people only care about their pocket books and could care less if they bring down the World Economy (this is effecting everybody, not just the US).
The simple fact that environmentalist won't let any new refineries be built, won't let us drill in areas that we know would supply us for many years to come.
We need to drill for oil to tide us over until we can develop efficient alternative means of energy production.
But to be honest, it's our own faults for letting the Nuts invade Washington and the Democratic party in particular. This has been coming for the last 35 years.

ViRedd · #**342** 06-09-2008, 09:37 AM

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What can I say. Your party, the repukes have been in control for the last 12 years, the last 2 years they have blocked any legislation with their overide proof minority, so tell me why it is the dems fault, oh and also tell me the repukes don't take lobby money, yeah, right.

Of course the Republicans take lobby money. Both parties do. So what?

I've challenged you to this before, but to date, you've not come up with the answer ... Find one .... just ONE Democrat in the Senate or Congress that has voted in favor of new dam construction, refinery construction, exploratory drilling or atomic energy plants. If you can fine one, I'll be really surprised. If you can't find one, at least think of the poor little old lady living on Social Security in the North East next January who will be eating dog food in order to afford her heating oil. Because of your Democrat Party, she will have to make the choice between eating or freezing to death.

After all Med ... if we could save one life by drillng in Anwar, it would be worth it, no?

Vi

PS: Dankster ... your last post is right on and I'm in total agreement with you.

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medicineman · #**343** 06-09-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dankdude

They have been building a Nuclear Power plant in Bay City Texas for two years.
What most don't understand is that it's not the oil companies who's responsible for the drastic increase of energy prices. It's the Market Speculators. This is a prime example of why the markets need to be regulated.
These people only care about their pocket books and could care less if they bring down the World Economy (this is effecting everybody, not just the US).
The simple fact that environmentalist won't let any new refineries be built, won't let us drill in areas that we know would supply us for many years to come.
We need to drill for oil to tide us over until we can develop efficient alternative means of energy production.
But to be honest, it's our own faults for letting the Nuts invade Washington and the Democratic party in particular. This has been coming for the last 35 years.

So, you must be a proud republican, given there are only 2 choices. I'm not so sure there is any redeeming qualities in either party, but in point of fact, the Democrats favor peoples rights over corporate interests, the main reason I vote Democratic. with the republicans in power for the last 12 years, peoples rights have taken a real beating. I'm hoping an Obama presidency will restore some of them.

medicineman · #**344** 06-09-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

Of course the Republicans take lobby money. Both parties do. So what?

I've challenged you to this before, but to date, you've not come up with the answer ... Find one .... just ONE Democrat in the Senate or Congress that have voted in favor of new dam construction, refinery construction, exploratory drilling or atomic energy plants. If you can fine one, I'll be really surprised. If you can't find one, at least think of the poor little old lady living on Social Security in the North East next January who will be eating dog food in order to afford her heating oil. Because of your Democrat Party, she will have to make the choice between eating or freezing to death.

After all Med ... if we could save one life by drillng in Anwar, it would be worth it, no?

Vi

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It was already brought to your attention what a miniscule amount of oil is in Anwar and in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't make one ounce of difference. The reason they want to drill in anwar is they don't have to pay foriegners for the oil, they can keep all the money. Your analogy about the old lady says it all. for our government to let an old lady die from either lack of heat or food speaks volumnes about Capitalism. Anwar is about profit, pure and simple. I'll guarantee you the price of gas will not go down one red cent from drilling in Anwar.

Dankdude · #**345** 06-09-2008, 09:50 AM

I'm neither Republican or Democrat, you know yourself that I lean to the left on most issues. But Environmentalism neither stands up to common sense or physics.
The environmentalist who have been in control of the Democratic party for too long.
The environmentalist agenda stands up to all 10 planks of the communist manifesto by Karl Marx (maybe you should read it some time). Sorry I have been in Seattle, Portland and San Francisco and seen these nut jobs in action, most amount to a bunch of kids who have nothing better to do on a Saturday but raise hell.. It is time to purge the Democratic party of the Nuts.

BTW Don't ever call me a Republican again, I take it as one of the utmost insults you can call me.

Dankdude · #**346** 06-09-2008, 10:10 AM

medicineman · #**347** 06-09-2008, 10:15 AM

BTW Don't ever call me a Republican again, I take it as one of the utmost insults you can call me.

Or what? That is quite a threat Dank. I thought we were on cordial terms. In point of fact I didn't call you one, I said you must be one, it was in the form of a question. I'm glad you aren't. I have very few republican friends and I also would consider it an insult, so, sorry for the inference. I have noticed you siding more and more with the right though, just an observation. Seems to me, you would be more left leaning as I've always considered you a humanitarian type, not the me me me right wing holes.
BTW, never been to an environmental rally, and yes, I imagine it would be more the young idealistic crowd that hasen't yet been jaded by life. Too bad we couldn't work them in to our energy policies and start on repairing the environmental damage so our grandkids could have the same quality of life as we had. I keep forgetting you have worked in the oil fields, that may account for your anti-environmental vitriol, I like that word since Vi used it on me. Hey, just making conversation.

natrone23 · #**348** 06-09-2008, 10:21 AM

I think the democrats have been wrong on the nuke power issue its irrational, we cant have are a cake and eat it to, Anwar and coast drilling will only increase the flow for a little while and it not be immediate, we need to take a leap, like solar, wind, anything better, technology is getting better and better solar is getting more efficent, cheaper and smaller, but you know it will take the government to fund such a large project ie NASA i just think fossil fuels are a thing of the past.

medicineman · #**349** 06-09-2008, 10:48 AM

Plans for the water car. Seems like they've been fucked with so they won't come up, Go figure.

bongspit · #**350** 06-09-2008, 12:07 PM

down the road from me in hartsville tn. TVA built a nuclear power plant, they got it about 2/3 of the way finished and then they stopped...they spent 2 billion dollars and the big cooling towers are there and all the buildings and machinery are all still there...they just walked away because it was no longer financially feasible.
There are some other unfinished nuclear power stations in TVA's inventory, they include Watts Bar Unit 2, Bellifont Units 1 & 2.