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    Default CBO to employers: Obamacare has $4B more in taxes than expected

    Business owners will pay $4 billion more in taxes under President Obama’s Affordable Care Act (ACA) than the Congressional Budget Office had previously expected.
    “According to the updated estimates, the amount of deficit reduction from penalty payments and other effects on tax revenues under the ACA will be $5 billion more than previously estimated,” the CBO reported today. “That change primarily effects a $4 billion increase in collections from such payments by employers, a $1 billion increase in such payments by individuals, and an increase of less than $500 million in tax revenues stemming from a small reduction in employment-based coverage, which will lead to a larger share of total compensation taking the form of taxable wages and salaries and a smaller share taking the form of nontaxable health benefits.”
    In short, CBO revised the Obamacare tax burden upward by $4 billion for businesses and $1 billion to $1.5 billion for individual workers.
    CBO couldn’t help but bump into Chief Justice John Roberts controversial decision uphold the individual mandate as a constitutional exercise of Congress’s taxing power. The report dubs the individual mandate a “penalty tax” — that is, “a penalty paid to the Treasury by taxpayers when they file their tax returns and enforced by the Internal Revenue Service.”

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/cbo-to...rticle/2503013


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    You mean to tell me the Congressional Budget Office got an estimate wrong, AGAIN???

    HOLY FUCKING SHIT, SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!
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    They knew the numbers were off before they even voted on the bill, debates with republicans on the bill (financially)can be found on youtube but they just steamrolled it through anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoDrama View Post
    You mean to tell me the Congressional Budget Office got an estimate wrong, AGAIN???

    HOLY FUCKING SHIT, SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!

    The strangest thing about the CBO! Whenever they estimate that taxes or costs will be low, they are wrong but whenever they estimate costs or taxes will be high, they are always accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canndo View Post
    The strangest thing about the CBO! Whenever they estimate that taxes or costs will be low, they are wrong but whenever they estimate costs or taxes will be high, they are always accurate.
    Maybe because these programs ALWAYS end up costing double, triple, 10, 50 times more than the Progressives on both sides of the aisle say they will. It ain't strange, it's the reality that's flapping and squawking around in our faces. Unfortunately, a great many of our fellow citizens have the ability to disregard the obvious.
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    here's part of the article I just read...

    "Obamacare will cost less… The new CBO scoring shows that the net cost of Obamacare will be $84 billion less over the next 10 years than predicted in its last analysis in March 2012. Spending on the Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program expansion will fall by $289 billion, while increased spending on the exchanges to cover some of those who will no longer qualify for Medicaid will cost $210 billion."

    furthermore... "CBO says that the house repeal bill would increase the deficit by $109 billion through 2022."

    The republican plan to repeal would add 109 billion to the deficit over the next 10 years. Sticking with the president's plan would save 84 billion over the next 10 years. That was what the original CBO report said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuyLocoNC View Post
    Maybe because these programs ALWAYS end up costing double, triple, 10, 50 times more than the Progressives on both sides of the aisle say they will. It ain't strange, it's the reality that's flapping and squawking around in our faces. Unfortunately, a great many of our fellow citizens have the ability to disregard the obvious.

    I have found that little of what people consider to be obvious really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canndo View Post
    The strangest thing about the CBO! Whenever they estimate that taxes or costs will be low, they are wrong but whenever they estimate costs or taxes will be high, they are always accurate.
    I guess you are referring to the CBO estimates that the Bush tax cuts would reduce revenues by 100s of billions if enacted and the results were an Increase in hundreds of billions instead.

    The CBO has said they scored the bill as written, and as written they used 4.0 GDP growth based on the silly projections by the dems of the stimulus result. If debated today there is no way that poorly written bill gets passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canndo View Post
    I have found that little of what people consider to be obvious really is.
    Fair enough. However, I would say that a $16 trillion dollar debt, an annual $1.4 trillion deficit and $120 trillion in unfunded liabilities is cause for concern. Some "experts" use the term, recipe for disaster. I find myself leaning in the direction of their analysis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuyLocoNC View Post
    Fair enough. However, I would say that a $16 trillion dollar debt, an annual $1.4 trillion deficit and $120 trillion in unfunded liabilities is cause for concern. Some "experts" use the term, recipe for disaster. I find myself leaning in the direction of their analysis.
    if deficits don't matter why bother collecting taxes at all?
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