with todays 12 killings. ...

**Rob Roy** · 07-23-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Trolling

Corruption and dishonest people are everywhere but most cops aren't gonna use their guns unless it's an absolute last resort.

...unless you're a dog at a pot bust.

**doc111** · 07-23-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by NoDrama

Yeah, I actually went and checked it out, LOL the guy is def on something.

Hey! Did you hear? Holmes didn't have any body armor on, just some padding.

Yeah, it was a fucking assault vest! I didn't hear what else he was supposedly wearing. What kind of padding?

Gotta have somewhere to hold all those mags and rounds for his assault rifle and shotgun!

**Rob Roy** · 07-23-2012, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

i've been waiting for someone to chime in with the old cliche: an armed society is a polite society.

false. a polite society is a polite society. an armed society is polite through hostility, distrust, and threat of violence.

too bad the gun debate always come back to the fact that we, as a species, are violent retards. it's been getting worse ever since we started putting up fences and farming the land.

How would you disarm people that have never aggressed against anybody and wish to have guns for self defense ? Would you use guns?

**Rob Roy** · 07-23-2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

since this thread was started, 19 people have died due to gun violence.

Don't forget the people that U.S. troops under Obama killed...or don't they count?

**doc111** · 07-23-2012, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rob Roy

Don't forget the people that U.S. troops under Obama killed...or don't they count?

..........not in that statistic.

**Rob Roy** · 07-23-2012, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

again, a polite society is a polite society. an armed society is a hostile, mistrusting, fearful, violent, coercive society.

so funny that you rail against a government which "coerces" at the point of a gun, yet when you coerce politeness at the point of a gun, it's righteous.

pure hypocrisy.

if the government were to prohibit firearms to the Nth degree, only the richest and most successful thugs could afford the things. as it is, any douche with some pocket money can get one, as they are so readily available.

security comes in many forms, being armed to the teeth is only one of these many forms.

Having a gun for self defense implies no coercion. It is to REPEL acts of aggression if need be. Government "has a gun" behind nearly every one of their acts. They INITIATE AGGRESSION. They are not the same thing these things you compare.

**nontheist** · 07-23-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by doc111

Yeah, it was a fucking assault vest! I didn't hear what else he was supposedly wearing. What kind of padding?

Gotta have somewhere to hold all those mags and rounds for his assault rifle and shotgun!

Like I said worst journalism I have seen ever, left news media jumped on this so fast and just flat ass lied and or exaggerated the facts so bad its a lie. Even ABC tried to call him a tea party member its fucking sad really.

**doc111** · 07-23-2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by nontheist

Like I said worst journalism I have seen ever, left news media jumped on this so fast and just flat ass lied and or exaggerated the facts so bad its a lie. Even ABC tried to call him a tea party member its fucking sad really.

The media has been a joke for a while now, but I agree.