January to June 2012 warmest first half of any year on record

Nota bene that I didn't say it either. I offered it as the extremum. Just in case I'm to be creatively quoted again. cn

Originally Posted by Red1966

One could substitute leftest for rightest and the statement would be equally true.

Actually, not even close unfortunately, you see the right tends to insulate itself by actually believing (I think they believe it) that there is ideological and behavoiral symetry between right and left. This is not the case, belief systems are not interchangeable and are not mirror images of each other. If according to the right, everything is interchangeable then their behavior is ok, because it is no different in anything but degree certainly, than the way the left behaves. I see you have not acnkowleged that vulcanism is a dot of CO2 when compared to the effluent of human activity. This would be typical of the right, an abject inabililty to accept reality when that reality does not conform with one's preconceived view of the world.


But we can see for ourselves. Here is your statement:

"volcanos" Volcanoes can produces more co2 in a day than man releases in thousands of years. So much they cause catastrophic global climate change and major extinction level events. Stating " they are background noise in that system as they are intermitent and easily compensated for by other mechanisms." is foolish."

I and another posted facts about the actual comparison between man released and naturaly released carbon. In short, your statement is false and is based upon either your projection of reality (it happens, we all do it, we make things up because we are all victims of our own common sense or what "should be" and have never done the research on something as obvious) or your believing what has been told to you (we all do that as well, I've been known to post leftist myth much to my embarassment - simply because it SHOULD be right or I really really want it to be right).

Now you can continue to question my sources of information but I did post numbers and a link to the source, and I believe the link is fairly unbiased.

but until you can come up with actual numbers that dispute mine, your statement has been debunked.


Now what are you going to do about that? Will you indeed publicly acknowlege that you were wrong and henceforth not use that particular argument again?


You see, were I in your position I would, and that is the difference between rightist and leftist intellectuality.

And btw, I spotted Beenthere's more recent posts on another thread. I may be wrong but I believe he was another "vulcanism dwarfs human output" proclaimer. Let's see if he shows up and rectifies his mistaken understanding.

Beenthere?

Originally Posted by canndo

Now what are you going to do about that? Will you indeed publicly acknowlege that you were wrong and henceforth not use that particular argument again?


You see, were I in your position I would, and that is the difference between rightist and leftist intellectuality.

Hey, you followed Bucky's claim of paying 25% in fed income taxes, will you or Bucky publicly acknowledge that he was wrong and henceforth not use that particular argument again?

Originally Posted by beenthere

Hey, you followed Bucky's claim of paying 25% in fed income taxes, will you or Bucky publicly acknowledge that he was wrong and henceforth not use that particular argument again?

this is about temp rises not tax's are you lost . .. . . you do know that people are allowed to have ideas that are not necessarily connected by any ideology

Originally Posted by Samwell Seed Well

this is about temp rises not tax's are you lost . .. . . you do know that people are allowed to have ideas that are not necessarily connected by any ideology

Are you insinuating canndo cannot defend himself, or that bringing up a leftest has more integrity than a rightest is not open to question?

Originally Posted by beenthere

Hey, you followed Bucky's claim of paying 25% in fed income taxes, will you or Bucky publicly acknowledge that he was wrong and henceforth not use that particular argument again?

Now hang on beenthere. Firstly, your conforming to reality should not be dependent upon anothers behavior - something that is fairly obvious. You seem to be willing to make a "bargain" with me in order to preserve some sort of intellectual integrity - is that really the place to go? This portion of the global warming debate is either true or it is not. it is not true or false based upon my actions or inactions.

Secondly, I did not say anything at all about Uncle Buck's claim true or false and can not verify in any way. Had I said outright "Uncle buck paid 25 percent in fed tax" and it was proven he did not do so then you would certainly have me and you would not need to call me to task.

This thread morphed into a variety of things, one was my contention that the right has an inability to accept facts and let those facts guide their behavior, it is also about rightist myth and the distribution of such myths among the loyal believers.

Originally Posted by beenthere

Are you insinuating canndo cannot defend himself, or that bringing up a leftest has more integrity than a rightest is not open to question?

Now Sam I believe has a place in this discussion as he was also a "debunker". i don't think he is insinuating such a thing but I really would rather not have this go to personalities or individuals. I don't want to give anyone on the right a chance to eel out of this simple confrontation with a typical tactic on both sides - "getting all huffy an shit" and then taking their toys and going home. It is pretty simple really, Beenthere? Is vulcanism a minor contributor of co2? and was your argument on that basis wrong? finally, will you refrain from using it again? (if this seems like some kind of scold it is not, I just want to see how close I am in my assessments of rightist arguments).