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    I think I got to the point where I cant stand this "you have show respect for our troops" moto. Says who?

    "Oh, they are fighting a war for your freedom". Are they really?

    While I would love to go into a big "Iraq/Afgan" war rant, I just want to vent a little and say "fuck our troops". Actually im going to put it on one of those stupid ribbons for the back of my car that says that.

    "You cant do that, you'll get shot" Really? Now I have to worry about my freedom of speech from my own people? Why do I have to be fearful to disagree on this issue?

    Also all the people that I know that are "troops" joined because they needed money or education. Not the selfless act of "fighting for our freedom".

    So yeah, I'm not scared anymore, fuck our troops and fuck these useless wars.
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    Well not everyone joins to get money or what not...but the majority does...it still doesn't negate what they do in the name of Uncle Sam, but it sounds like one hell of a monkey to have on your back...I think we should perhaps "pity" the troops... I can't word it right...but while I used to agree with you...I can't say that I agree with Fuck the troops, but pity the men inside of those uniforms... Not to mention the military uses a lot of brainwashing, so by the time they set you down and tell you to kill you simply feel you must...I mean that is what it has all been building to. A lot of people do take it as a serious task the defending of ones nation, while I think a lot of people who join just like to blow things up...some are surely there because they possess the innate ability and wish to kill on a primal level and they figure this will get it out of their system...I mean what happens in the field stays in the field right?--right---unless it is posted on YouTube...
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    I am against the "Troops" but I am for the poor schmucks who picked that uniform as a way to feed their family or get through college...I pity them a great deal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VILEPLUME View Post
    I think I got to the point where I cant stand this "you have show respect for our troops" moto. Says who?

    "Oh, they are fighting a war for your freedom". Are they really?

    While I would love to go into a big "Iraq/Afgan" war rant, I just want to vent a little and say "fuck our troops". Actually im going to put it on one of those stupid ribbons for the back of my car that says that.

    "You cant do that, you'll get shot" Really? Now I have to worry about my freedom of speech from my own people? Why do I have to be fearful to disagree on this issue?

    Also all the people that I know that are "troops" joined because they needed money or education. Not the selfless act of "fighting for our freedom".

    So yeah, I'm not scared anymore, fuck our troops and fuck these useless wars.
    Our troops have nothing to do with the useless wars, they just do what they're told. Your distaste is pointed in the wrong direction.

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    Its sad. These guys put their life on the line and you say "fuck em"

    You may not support the policy makers, which is definatly understandable. But to straight up say fuck the troops, you need to leave the country. You arnt deserving of the men who have died for your security.
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    I feel very bad that our citizens have been forced into fighting these battles. I say fuck the people that think our imperialistic campaigns have anything to do with freedom or democracy. These have been economic wars and they are bankrupting this country. Too many people have died all around so that America can steal resources from poor countries, install foreign leaders that will do our bidding or for other more heinous reasons that our government lies to us about.

    The troops are not the problem. They are brave and committed to doing what they are told is the right thing, but they are just pawns in a much, much bigger game. The poor leadership and weak oversight of our elected official is a real tragedy.
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    I think it's just plain jealousy. The venomous tone of the post makes it obvious. OP probably can't go that route for one reason or another. To resent anyone who just wants to forge a career. .. you say Fuck em?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Retro View Post
    Its sad. These guys put their life on the line and you say "fuck em"

    You may not support the policy makers, which is definatly understandable. But to straight up say fuck the troops, you need to leave the country. You arnt deserving of the men who have died for your security.
    Security? the post below yours I think has it right, unless your talking security for the private contractors going overseas setting up shop to bilk resources.

    Quote Originally Posted by jessy koons View Post
    I feel very bad that our citizens have been forced into fighting these battles. I say fuck the people that think our imperialistic campaigns have anything to do with freedom or democracy. These have been economic wars and they are bankrupting this country. Too many people have died all around so that America can steal resources from poor countries, install foreign leaders that will do our bidding or for other more heinous reasons that our government lies to us about.

    The troops are not the problem, they are just pawns. The poor leadership and weak over site of our elected official is the real tragedy.
    I'm with you!, and missnu.. I pity the poor (fe)males that are in uniform.

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    They don't want your pity, they just want your support. If pity is all you have, take it somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ru4r34l View Post
    Security? the post below yours I think has it right, unless your talking security for
    the private contractors going overseas setting up shop to bilk resources.


    I'm with you!, and missnu.. I pity the poor (fe)males that are in uniform.

    regards,
    Yes, security. We went into afghan with the intention of disrupting "terrorists". Iraq is questionable.

    Whether if they were or werent actually fighting for our security, that is what they believe they are doing. And if someone is willing to die for my security, I have the utmost respect for them.

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    And to the people saying "it was all about oil"

    What evidence do you have to prove that?

    Most of Iraq's oil assets are and always have been controlled by the state.
    The only deals baghdad did sign with foreign investors, none of them are with U.S companies. And they are heavily in favor of the Iraqi government.
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