Ok to "not" support our troops?

I want to cut the defense budget in half... it is very doable and would solve many problems.

Originally Posted by Corso312

Switzerland seems to be just fine minus an army and massive defense spending...don't believe the hype.

agreed. switzerland does not have a standing army. they do have a standing militia, compulsory service, and a populace that is armed in readiness to defend their country. thats what our constitution calls for as well.

constitutionally we only have a standing navy (hard to have an amateur navy), coast guard (same reasons) and marine corps (required to provide naval security and a rapid deployment force, but limited by the constitution to 2 divisions)

i can accept the need for a standing air force too, for the same reasons we have to have a navy, but passing an amendment to create an air force would have been to hard for the congress to do ????

our army is intended to be a small professional officer corps, and a small non-commissioned officer corps to train and muster the militia to ensure equipment and readiness. these are intended to be augmented by the naval and army colleges which are funded by the congress.

re-adopting the militia standard of our constitution and eliminating the silly useless unconstitutional gun prohibitions would greatly reduce our military spending.

the reason we have a standing army is the perfidiity of congress and the legal class re-interpreting the militia act of 1789, and the Dick Act (heh heh ) of 1911. these militia regulatory acts were intended to ensure a ready, trained and equipped citizen militia to repel foreign threats from our soil. just like switzerland. the "brilliant legal minds" of the legalist class used those acts of congress to "authorize" a massive military buildup a standing army and the ridiculous forces we now field in every region of the world. ad in the foolishness of the monroe doctrine and the domino theory of communist containment and we get the current situation, an empire' military spending without an empire's provincial tax base.

youre absolutely right though. switzerland has the right idea, which is why the founding fathers instituted the militia system instead of the standing army of the european imperialist powers. (and i mean imperialist in the literal sense, not the bullshit newspeak sense)

Originally Posted by Corso312

You are both wrong...we have the nuclear capability to blow the world up 15 times over...we do not need an army...most countries don't....you are just brainwashed into thinking we do so keep throwing logs onto the fire and wasting money on a massive army spread across the globe, that only makes more hateable.

I would like a link for this supposed capacity to trash the world 15x, or even 1x. cn

this guy i work with's father works at the sub base here in CT. he said you wouldn't believe the shit that they throw away in the trash. he said it sickens him to know that the governments pockets are that deep. when i think about it like that it makes me fucking pissed too. they push recycling yet, throw thousands of dollars away in a day. i understand things to stay fresh in our defense systems but there's a fuckin line to be drawn somewhere

Originally Posted by cannabineer

I would like a link for this supposed capacity to trash the world 15x, or even 1x. cn

1500 active warheads

Originally Posted by tomahawk2406

this guy i work with's father works at the sub base here in CT. he said you wouldn't believe the shit that they throw away in the trash. he said it sickens him to know that the governments pockets are that deep. when i think about it like that it makes me fucking pissed too. they push recycling yet, throw thousands of dollars away in a day. i understand things to stay fresh in our defense systems but there's a fuckin line to be drawn somewhere

Groton Conneticut
I was stationed across the River in New London
I was also in the General Dynamics boatyard for refit for 6 months

No you would not fuckking believe what gets tossed
And i am not inclined to tell you

And ON a side note

Some sailors one time took home a manual to study from
They couldnt get it back on base so they came up with a great Idea
Shred it and throw it in seperate trash cans

1 page turned up

The sub base was shut down for a week until almost every page of that manual was found

Lots of sailors going thru trash in their summer whites

Originally Posted by ChesusRice

1500 active warheads

Okay. Now calculate how much land area those 1500 submegaton warheads can actually damage, even when used with extreme prejudice. cn

Originally Posted by cannabineer

Okay. Now calculate how much land area those 1500 submegaton warheads can actually damage, even when used with extreme prejudice. cn

The world

Look up nuclear winter
also multiply that by 2 and half

retaliation is also in the cards