Even the socialists hate Obamacare

Originally Posted by nontheist

Really, I buy that, that's why he shares information about accounts with you. Real secure for a MJ site, that you have tried so hard to destroy. You have not only destroyed your credibility but the sites security at the same time.

you can ask him. he has threatened to ban me when i go full throttle on little sock puppets like you.

what are mommy and daddy cooking for the holiday, kid?

Originally Posted by Mr Neutron

Socialist Party Candidate Alexander Calls Obamacare Another Corporate Giveaway
by Billy Wharton
Friday Jun 29th, 2012 10:10 AM

Obama’s policy was based on the original sin of allowing the pharmaceutical companies off the hook. He then followed this up by pledging public funds to subsidize junk healthcare plans, coercing Americans into purchasing these plans and silencing the voices of single-payer healthcare advocates. Obamacare is not healthcare reform; it is just another corporate giveaway by the Obama administration.

Socialist Party USA Presidential Candidate Stewart Alexander condemned the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the provisions of the President Obama’s Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Calling it a “corporate restructuring of the healthcare system in America,” Alexander pointed to the many inequities that are built into to the new system. He highlighted the need for a fully socialized healthcare system that guarantees access to high quality healthcare as a human right.

“The private health insurance companies always had two ideas in mind when it came to healthcare reform – either to avoid all reforms or stick the American people with a bad reform,” Alexander stated, “Today, the Supreme Court upheld the bad healthcare reform that will insure the profits of private healthcare companies at the expense of American’s access to healthcare.”

“Obama’s policy was based on the original sin of allowing the pharmaceutical companies off the hook. He then followed this up by pledging public funds to subsidize junk healthcare plans, coercing Americans into purchasing these plans and silencing the voices of single-payer healthcare advocates. This is no reform; it is just another corporate giveaway by the Obama administration.”

Alexander pointed to the fact that an estimated 26 million people will remain outside the healthcare system and that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act still leaves millions of Americans vulnerable to bankruptcy because of medical bills.

Alexander and his running mate Alex Mendoza advocate for a single-payer healthcare system that will abolish the private health insurance companies. They see this measure as an important first step in the direction of a fully socialized healthcare system. The pair will challenge the Patient Protection and Affordable Care on the campaign trail, including the Swing States of Ohio, Colorado, Louisiana, New Jersey and Florida.

The Socialist Party USA is America’s voice for democratic socialism. The SP-USA supports the creation of a radical democracy where regular people have a direct voice on issues related to public budgets, how their work sites operate and in their community. We believe that things like housing, healthcare, a clean environment and a good job are human rights and should be guaranteed.


For more information, visit the 2012 campaign website: Stewart Alexander for President/Alex Mendoza for Vice President 2012:http://stewartalexanderforpresident2012.org/

http://socialistwebzine.blogspot.com...ate-calls.html

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/201...9/18716571.php

who'd a thunk it?

We hate Obamacare because it didn't do anything to help anyone but Big Pharma and Health Insurance Companies. Good thread though! We want Universal Single Payer just like Canada, Australia, New Zealand.. yup pretty much the UK those damn socialists rot you scum bags!

It is so simple to fix that the paid off politicians are very afraid the people will figure it out and fire them. The simple solution is to fire the insurance companies, figure out what it will really cost, and raise the taxes, (Mostly on those that can afford it most, the wealthy) and start a medical system "not for profit" that will benefit every legal resident in the country, and most likely those illegals also. Train doctors for free, let them work it off on low pay for a certain time in public medicine, and get on with solving our fiscal problems and our corrupt political system, by getting money out of politics. I realize this is an oversimplification, but damn it, why all the complication? Freedom should include the right to be healthy.. While I'm on the subject, I believe it is time to start replacing Capitalism. I'm pretty sure we could come up with a better system that would not benefit the people with the capital/money so dominantly. How about worker owned businesses. How about doing away with wall street and the Banksters that control the world. We outnumber them 100-1. What the fuck is wrong with us??

Originally Posted by ginjawarrior

Lol show me any other 60 year old technique and I can show you something that has gotten cheaper

Now look at the rest of medicine that is using new technique and see it hasn't had time to get cheaper

So, you're saying that eye surgery is operating with the same technology as 60 years ago?
A wise man keeps his mouth shut and let's others think him a fool, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

you can ask him. he has threatened to ban me when i go full throttle on little sock puppets like you.

what are mommy and daddy cooking for the holiday, kid?

Sounds like a desperate plea to me, daddy isn't going to be happy you're sharing inside information on public forums. If he/she had half a brain they would ban you, you're more trouble than its worth.

Originally Posted by medicineman

It is so simple to fix that the paid off politicians are very afraid the people will figure it out and fire them. The simple solution is to fire the insurance companies, figure out what it will really cost, and raise the taxes, (Mostly on those that can afford it most, the wealthy) and start a medical system "not for profit" that will benefit every legal resident in the country, and most likely those illegals also. Train doctors for free, let them work it off on low pay for a certain time in public medicine, and get on with solving our fiscal problems and our corrupt political system, by getting money out of politics. I realize this is an oversimplification, but damn it, why all the complication? Freedom should include the right to be healthy.. While I'm on the subject, I believe it is time to start replacing Capitalism. I'm pretty sure we could come up with a better system that would not benefit the people with the capital/money so dominantly. How about worker owned businesses. How about doing away with wall street and the Banksters that control the world. We outnumber them 100-1. What the fuck is wrong with us??

Here you want the answer on why nothing got fixed

Originally Posted by ChesusRice

Man that is so easy

Because
There are thousands of more laser eye surgery centers
more Lasik machines
that = more supply than demand

Why, that sounds like... trickle down economics.
Gee, why do you suppose there are so many laser eye surgery centers? Hmmmm, let's see... there must be a demand for it. Even though most insurance will not pay for laser eye surgery. Hmmmm, maybe THAT is why. Yeah, that makes sense. When people have to pay for something, they have a vested interest in getting the most for their money.
You got closer than gw but the answer is competition.

Originally Posted by nontheist

Sounds like a desperate plea to me, daddy isn't going to be happy you're sharing inside information on public forums. If he/she had half a brain they would ban you, you're more trouble than its worth.

you poor little baby. start another sock puppet sometime during your 112 hour work week.