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forums; Originally Posted by ChesusRice [ QUOTE=nontheist;7646442]Because the money isn't there. In 2005, Ryan said, "The reason I got involved in ...
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    Yes, lets get our gov involved in something they cant already freaking control. How much fraud does medical medicare have each year?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_fraud

    The total amount of Medicare fraud is difficult to track, because not all fraud is detected and not all suspicious claims turn out to be fraudulent. According to the Office of Management and Budget, Medicare "improper payments" were $47.9 billion in 2010, but some of these payments later turned out to be valid.[1] The Congressional Budget Office estimates that total Medicare spending was $528 billion in 2010.[2]

    The Medicare program is a target for fraud because it is based on the "honor system" of billing. It was originally set-up to help honest doctors who helped the needy with medical services.


    they estimate the total health care fraud at a small price of (pinky in mouth) 100 Million Dollars *** EACH YEAR***
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/13/news...th_care_fraud/


    But this is great News cuz they have that already figured out
    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-26/p..._s=PM:POLITICS

    16500 irs agents will be assigned to make sure they is no fraud and to make sure those who dont Buy the insurance pay their fines!

    so............ follow the money trail as they say to see who is getting the benefits from this.


    its sick

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    You just told me last night that "socialized" healthcare was brought to everyone be Romney and the Conservatives.

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    Isn't Biden locked up in a padded cell so he won't speak or put his foot in his mouth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gioua View Post

    16500 irs agents will be assigned to make sure they is no fraud and to make sure those who dont Buy the insurance pay their fines!


    its sick
    Another political myth propagated by the rightist machine.


    "The Republicans who originated the 16,500 job figure on March 18 are on the House Ways and Means Committee. That's the committee with jurisdiction over tax matters, and the GOP members' analysis made clear how the numbers were derived -- much clearer than the rhetoric being voiced by some of the lawmakers. Ranking committee Republican Dave Camp of Michigan called the IRS's reach under the health-care bill "a dangerous expansion of the IRS's power and reach into the lives of virtually every American."
    His figure comes from extrapolating numbers from an independent Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis. The CBO analysis said the IRS might have to spend $5 billion to $10 billion administering the health-care bill in its first decade. But the CBO never examined exactly how the IRS would spend that administration money -- nor did it say that a specific sum would go for new agents who would use federal policing powers to make sure Americans have acceptable coverage.
    Ways and Means Republicans got the 16,500 job figure by making calculations based on what they called "reasonable assumptions," which include current IRS payroll figures. Yet the job figure could just as likely shrink to 5,900 if the lower end of the CBO estimate, or $5 billion, is used, PolitiFact says.
    That's still a lot of new IRS jobs.
    But most of those jobs -- and the IRS has not yet determined a number -- will not go to audit Americans to make sure they are buying insurance, IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman told a Ways and Means subcommittee on March 25. Rather, Shulman said the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services will probably gather that information from insurers. HHS will provide it in turn to the taxpayer and the IRS, so families and businesses can get tax credits with which to buy coverage, just as they get deductions for interest on their mortgages."
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    Quote Originally Posted by gioua View Post
    Yes, lets get our gov involved in something they cant already freaking control. How much fraud does medical medicare have each year?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_fraud

    The total amount of Medicare fraud is difficult to track, because not all fraud is detected and not all suspicious claims turn out to be fraudulent. According to the Office of Management and Budget, Medicare "improper payments" were $47.9 billion in 2010, but some of these payments later turned out to be valid.[1] The Congressional Budget Office estimates that total Medicare spending was $528 billion in 2010.[2]

    The Medicare program is a target for fraud because it is based on the "honor system" of billing. It was originally set-up to help honest doctors who helped the needy with medical services.


    they estimate the total health care fraud at a small price of (pinky in mouth) 100 Million Dollars *** EACH YEAR***
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/13/news...th_care_fraud/


    But this is great News cuz they have that already figured out
    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-26/p..._s=PM:POLITICS

    16500 irs agents will be assigned to make sure they is no fraud and to make sure those who dont Buy the insurance pay their fines!

    so............ follow the money trail as they say to see who is getting the benefits from this.


    its sick
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