epic win

You just won a new tax.

But Obama said it wasn't a tax.

Epic lies!

Originally Posted by Canna Sylvan

You just won a new tax.

But Obama said it wasn't a tax.

Epic lies!

both sides argued that it wasn't a tax.

but the SCOTUS said it was. a rose by any other name comes to mind. i can give two shits less what they call it. i know how the new, constitutional health care law works.

someone like you, making $30k with 5 kids, will have all but free health care. you will be subsidized heavily. your kids will get free check ups, and you'll get a rebate if your insurer spends too much money on administrative bullshit rather than actual health care. and you won't have to worry about getting dropped while your kid is undergoing expensive treatments because they discovered he had a sore throat when he was 3 years old and decide to say you lied to them about a pre existing condition.

those making 4x poverty, i.e. a single person making $50k+ a year, will have to buy insurance or pay a fine to the tune of $700. the horror. heavens to betsy, whatever shall they do? it's tyranny! they should be able to push their costs onto you if they so choose.

and whiney pussies like non theist will get to stay on mommy and daddy's health care plan for another 12 years, and complain about it the whole time while not understanding how the law actually works.

the PPACA is garbage, but it's garbage in the right direction.

so bucky, whats also enshrined in our constitution is:

negroes are 3/5 of a european
negroes are human chattel who can never be freed save by their legitimate owners
racially segregated facilities are acceptable
native americans have no rights, no treaties and no power to resist acts of congress or white settlers
agents of law enforcement have no responsibility to act when they witness a crime while on duty
imprisoning people in concentration camps for their ethnic origin is a good thing
rounding up mexicans and forcibly deporting them is acceptable, even if they are us citizens
corporations are people with every right of any person
states are not allowed to have their own laws unless the feds approve them
joining the union is a murder-suicide pact, and no state or territory can withdraw, ever
an individual who holds us citizenship must pay us taxes even if he hasnt set foot in the us for 30 years, and his business takes place solely in the nation of france
a confessed rapist cannot confess his crimes unless he is first informed that he does not have to confess, because he may not be aware that he in in america when he rapes
george w bush won the election against al gore

if the supreme court is in fact supreme, then you cant complain about any of this shit either, nor can you demand the court reverse their previous decisions.

It's real funny. I'll be going to jail for not properly treating my bipolar when I can't pay my tax. Not for pot.

I have three kids. A family of five, including me.

Originally Posted by Dr Kynes

so bucky, whats also enshrined in our constitution is:

negroes are 3/5 of a european
negroes are human chattel who can never be freed save by their legitimate owners
racially segregated facilities are acceptable
native americans have no rights, no treaties and no power to resist acts of congress or white settlers
agents of law enforcement have no responsibility to act when they witness a crime while on duty
imprisoning people in concentration camps for their ethnic origin is a good thing
rounding up mexicans and forcibly deporting them is acceptable, even if they are us citizens
corporations are people with every right of any person
states are not allowed to have their own laws unless the feds approve them
joining the union is a murder-suicide pact, and no state or territory can withdraw, ever
an individual who holds us citizenship must pay us taxes even if he hasnt set foot in the us for 30 years, and his business takes place solely in the nation of france
a confessed rapist cannot confess his crimes unless he is first informed that he does not have to confess, because he may not be aware that he in in america when he rapes
george w bush won the election against al gore

if the supreme court is in fact supreme, then you cant complain about any of this shit either, nor can you demand the court reverse their previous decisions.

Race isn't mentioned in the constitution. The 3/5 clause was for representation for all non-free persons, not negroes. Chinese were slaves too.

Originally Posted by Canna Sylvan

It's real funny. I'll be going to jail for not properly treating my bipolar when I can't pay my tax. Not for pot.

I have three kids. A family of five, including me.

it wont be jail, its a civil penalty, thus it will snowball into a crushing "debt" of fees and fines until they garnish your wages or throw you in slam for the unpaid fees on the "debt". it's all about the language. you cant be thrown in prison for not bowing to obamacare, you get thrown in prison for not being able to pay the fee for not bowing to obamacare. subtle shadings are the best shadings for socialists. broad bold strokes give traction for dissent, and dissent is bad.

know your role, and submit to the authority of your new god-king Barack Hussien Obama MM-MMM-MMMMM Everybody Works. Everybody Pays. MM-MMM-MMMM

Originally Posted by Dr Kynes

it wont be jail, its a civil penalty, thus it will snowball into a crushing "debt" of fees and fines until they garnish your wages or throw you in slam for the unpaid fees on the "debt". it's all about the language. you cant be thrown in prison for not bowing to obamacare, you get thrown in prison for not being able to pay the fee for not bowing to obamacare. subtle shadings are the best shadings for socialists. broad bold strokes give traction for dissent, and dissent is bad.

know your role, and submit to the authority of your new god-king Barack Hussien Obama MM-MMM-MMMMM Everybody Works. Everybody Pays. MM-MMM-MMMM

they can't garnish your wages, says so right in the bill.

nice fear mongering though.

Originally Posted by Dr Kynes

so bucky, whats also enshrined in our constitution is:

negroes are 3/5 of a european
negroes are human chattel who can never be freed save by their legitimate owners
racially segregated facilities are acceptable
native americans have no rights, no treaties and no power to resist acts of congress or white settlers
agents of law enforcement have no responsibility to act when they witness a crime while on duty
imprisoning people in concentration camps for their ethnic origin is a good thing
rounding up mexicans and forcibly deporting them is acceptable, even if they are us citizens
corporations are people with every right of any person
states are not allowed to have their own laws unless the feds approve them
joining the union is a murder-suicide pact, and no state or territory can withdraw, ever
an individual who holds us citizenship must pay us taxes even if he hasnt set foot in the us for 30 years, and his business takes place solely in the nation of france
a confessed rapist cannot confess his crimes unless he is first informed that he does not have to confess, because he may not be aware that he in in america when he rapes
george w bush won the election against al gore

if the supreme court is in fact supreme, then you cant complain about any of this shit either, nor can you demand the court reverse their previous decisions.

my ass they can't reverse previous decisions.

but until they do reverse them, it's constitutional. fact.