epic win

So if I am reading right if it does pass the Senate, that I will admit will be tough, and he vetos it then goes back to Congress and the veto gets shot down by a 2/3 majority.

Am I reading that correct?

Originally Posted by chrishydro

So if I am reading right if it does pass the Senate, that I will admit will be tough, and he vetos it then goes back to Congress and the veto gets shot down by a 2/3 majority.

Am I reading that correct?

Yes if he veto's congress with 2/3 majority can repeal or create a law.

Originally Posted by Parker

Like slavery? Stay in the shallow end and drink some urine, little fella.

"SCOTUS declaring something Constitutional does not make it so".

Correct, but being that SCOTUS's word on constitutionality is the very last word on the subject (unless revisited by that same body), the issue is now effectively moot. Therefore, if SCOTUS states that something is Constitutional, it will be treated by our government as such unless and until that subject is broached again, and it is SCOTUS's choice as to whether or not the subject will even be re-examined.

The whole truth is that the Republicans are just repeating history
ironic since the last time they used these tactics in the 90s The Republican plan was something we call today OBAMACARE

December 2, 1993 - Leading conservative operative William Kristol
privately circulates a strategy document to Republicans in Congress. Kristol
writes that congressional Republicans should work to "kill" -- not amend -- the
Clinton plan because it presents a real danger to the Republican future: Its
passage will give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and
revive the reputation of the party. Nearly a full year before Republicans will
unite behind the "Contract With America," Kristol has provided the rationale and
the steel for them to achieve their aims of winning control of Congress and
becoming America's majority party. Killing health care will serve both ends. The
timing of the memo dovetails with a growing private consensus among Republicans
that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan is in their best political interest.
Until the memo surfaces, most opponents prefer behind-the-scenes warfare largely
shielded from public view. The boldness of Kristol's strategy signals a new turn
in the battle. Not only is it politically acceptable to criticize the Clinton
plan on policy grounds, it is also politically advantageous. By the end of 1993,
blocking reform poses little risk as the public becomes increasingly fearful of
what it has heard about the Clinton plan.

You really should look at history
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/forum/ma...ate_page2.html

Originally Posted by canndo

This is incorrect (although it is getting a bit dicey). There are no debtor's prisons in the United States and there are only two situations where one can go to jail for owing money.

the first is owing child support and it has been found akin to owing wages or payroll taxes. The second of course, is .. owing wages or payroll taxes. This narative about people going to jail for owing taxes is simply a nonsensical scare tactic libertarians and the right repeat over and over again for effect and hypberbole. You cannot go to jail for not paying taxes.

You can, however for failing to report taxes owed (it is called fraud), you can for reporting falsely and you can for tax evasion but you do NOT go to jail for owing money.

The Right wing government in Nevada is pushing for jail time for not paying government fees. They fine you, then when you don,t pay the fine, they assess a fee on the unpaid fine and if you don't pay that, they issue a bench warrant for your arrest. I'm not sure if this has passed into law yet or not, the Democrats are sure to fight it in the state legislature, I certainly hope they win. They, the right wing state government, are trying to privatize all state prisons and enact a private police force, we can all see where that is heading.

Originally Posted by medicineman

The Right wing government in Nevada is pushing for jail time for not paying government fees. They fine you, then when you don,t pay the fine, they assess a fee on the unpaid fine and if you don't pay that, they issue a bench warrant for your arrest. I'm not sure if this has passed into law yet or not, the Democrats are sure to fight it in the state legislature, I certainly hope they win. They, the right wing state government, are trying to privatize all state prisons and enact a private police force, we can all see where that is heading.

NO WAY
You are a Liar go away you evil man

The Private prison industry would never lobby goverment for new laws that would enrich their bottom line

You sir are a dishonorable man'

Shame on you

Originally Posted by ChesusRice

NO WAY
You are a Liar go away you evil man

The Private prison industry would never lobby goverment for new laws that would enrich their bottom line

You sir are a dishonorable man'

Shame on you

KK that was a little "over the top" cheddar lol

Over the past several years private-prison companies Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) and the Geo Group, through their work as members of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and through their ties to the Arizona Legislature and the office of Gov. Jan Brewer, have had ample opportunity–and obvious intent–to ensure the passage of S.B. 1070.
According to Sen. Russell Pearce and Brewer’s spokesman Paul Senseman, the S.B. 1070 went through a lengthy edit and review process that took place predominantly within the Arizona Legislature and the offices of the Maricopa County Attorney and Gov. Brewer.
A little over a week after Pearce introduced S.B. 1070 on the floor of the Arizona Senate, CCA enlisted Highground Consulting, one of the most influential lobbying firms in Phoenix, to represent its interests in the state. Lobby disclosure forms filed with the Arizona Secretary of State indicate that Maricopa County also employed Highground during the time of the bill’s formation. Highground’s owner and principal, Charles “Chuck” Coughlin, is a top advisor and the current campaign manager of Gov. Brewer.