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    why do we call the wealthy "job creators" when the whole goal of owning a business is to employ as few people as possible to get the job done most efficiently?

    i mean, hiring more people is a process of last resort for any business owner. it makes more sense to call them employment reduction specialists.

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    To be a true Capitalist of today you would believe in making your business profits whilst hiring less people as possible. If you could hire 2 machines to do the job of 10 people ...you would go with the machines...so I guess you are not wrong.

    Note- Capitalism can only work when regulated. It seems over the last 30 years we have slowly stripped away at all regulations.
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    This is not true in my business, hiring more people you get more work done and make more money. (Software Development and Web Hosting)

    We are desperately trying to hire people everyday but very few people have the skills needed and schools aren't teaching people properly. (Government is such a failure at education they can't keep up with technology, Government fail, whats new?)

    I definitely agree with you on the whole "Job Creators" Bullshit...for the exact reasons stated. This is one of the many republican falsies. Consumers are the "Job Creators", not the uber wealthy. If people weren't consuming computer software and the internet so rapidly we wouldn't be hiring soo many people. Like you said, generally their job is to hire the least people possible but when there is demand created by the consumer they have to hire more people, therefore I conclude the consumer is the job creator, not the CEO.

    I completely disagree with Londonfrogs statement about regulations however, simply because of corruption, this leads to regulations creating defacto monopolies and mega-corporations that do not give a fuck about us and destroy small business and jobs. This problem is magnified in America were we have the the Corporations directly funding and keeping the regulators afloat. (amplified further by Citizens United) Regulations are not the answer and government/corporations are not our friend, this has held true for 10's of thousands of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    why do we call the wealthy "job creators" when the whole goal of owning a business is to employ as few people as possible to get the job done most efficiently?

    i mean, hiring more people is a process of last resort for any business owner. it makes more sense to call them employment reduction specialists.

    am i wrong?
    I dont want to say this statement is dumb however, the goal of a business owner should be efficent growth. You can not attain growth without adding people ie job creation. If you add people but dont grow and or increase your top line your bottom line will be smaller so some of what you say is true. It is all about growth, a lot of economic indicators are based on growth. If a company can attain double digit growth it is considered to be doing well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    why do we call the wealthy "job creators" when the whole goal of owning a business is to employ as few people as possible to get the job done most efficiently?

    i mean, hiring more people is a process of last resort for any business owner. it makes more sense to call them employment reduction specialists.

    am i wrong?
    The fact is a man can be in only so many places at one time. This limits the profitability of one man. A guy hires people to do some of the things that need to be done to make him money, to free his time up to go make more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishydro View Post
    I dont want to say this statement is dumb however, the goal of a business owner should be efficent growth. You can not attain growth without adding people ie job creation. If you add people but dont grow and or increase your top line your bottom line will be smaller so some of what you say is true. It is all about growth, a lot of economic indicators are based on growth. If a company can attain double digit growth it is considered to be doing well.
    Read my post above....Who creates the growth? it is consumers not the CEO, the CEO's job is to be efficient. They don't create jobs, they make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deprave View Post
    Read my post above....Who creates the growth? it is consumers not the CEO, the CEO's job is to be efficient. They don't create jobs, they make money.
    It is both, the consumer with needs, and the people who can identify them and make a profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deprave View Post
    Read my post above....Who creates the growth? it is consumers not the CEO, the CEO's job is to be efficient. They don't create jobs, they make money.
    Dont agree, inovation from the ceo creates income opportunites for the consumer to consider thus creates growth. No matter if apple or a plumber. We know apple creates growth, consumer driven but so new, so inovative the consumer will come. In the case of a plumber, new products to save you money at home offered up in marketing. Same thing same result, Inovative CEO's can in fact turn the economy around.
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    Take a big bank, JP Morgan etc, if they were to come up with a new software product that lets say tracks your bank accounts all year, deposits, checks atm withdrawls etc. You enter some basic info and code each transaction ahead of time, enter your mtg tax payments etc and at the end of the year you just push a button and it files your taxes for you that is inovation that is something people would be drawn to quickly.

    Ie Inovation in this case would create growth and would create jobs.
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