predictions, please

yeah-

what gives PIB, you don't look fuclked up. why all the disability?

aren't most guys from oreg0n fishermen and lumberjackers? let me guess, you're really from cali?

Originally Posted by londonfog

I will take the optimistic view that it stands 5-4. This vote will basically come down to politics. To get rid of it all would piss off a lot of people with pre-existing conditions, parents and their children who are under 26, those who cannot afford healthcare (well those who don't watch only fox). It also will mean we will have to revert back to the flawed system that we tried to fix.

To do away with the individual mandate would again make the whole PPACA worthless, since the mandate is meant to expand the pool of people covered by health insurance, making other parts of the law possible.
One thing that does strikes me as WTF. Repukes are ready to strike this law down, but have yet to offer anything that would help the healthcare problem...and also why is it that some of the people who this will help are the very ones complaining against it. Most will not even have to pay into it, because low-funded individuals will receive subsidies to help them afford insurance.

Where to start with this steaming pile of shit disguised as a post. First, you're "Wisconsin Recall" dreaming if you think it all stands. Second, we don't shred the Constitution because not doing so might piss off some people. Not to mention a great deal of the problems with the system are directly linked to government interference in the first place.

Finally, I guess the hundreds of ideas that the "repukes" have put forth don't qualify because they are actually legal and don't involve growing the size of government and creating even more beauracracy. I'm not going to sit here and list them all, I'm sure you can look them up if you really had ANY interest in hearing sane ideas.

Originally Posted by MuyLocoNC

Where to start with this steaming pile of shit disguised as a post. First, you're "Wisconsin Recall" dreaming if you think it all stands. Second, we don't shred the Constitution because not doing so might piss off some people. Not to mention a great deal of the problems with the system are directly linked to government interference in the first place.

Finally, I guess the hundreds of ideas that the "repukes" have put forth don't qualify because they are actually legal and don't involve growing the size of government and creating even more beauracracy. I'm not going to sit here and list them all, I'm sure you can look them up if you really had ANY interest in hearing sane ideas.

let me guess: all we need to do is fix malpractice suits and cross state lines, then we'll have a health care system to rival the rest of the wealthy world?



grow the fuck up. those two things will only make it more possible for insurance to cherry pick people better and won't bend the curve down at all. utter nonsense.

I think the individual mandate is not destined to become law.

i think the individual mandate is necessary and doesn't even go anywhere near as far as other mandates, like medicare taxes and SS taxes that come right out of your check.

mandate is necessary. source: every other fucking nation that insures all yet has lower costs.

My guess is they strike the whole thing. If they strike just the mandate, the rest of the law is unworkable. It will be a disaster if they strike the mandate and let the rest remain.

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

i think the individual mandate is necessary and doesn't even go anywhere near as far as other mandates, like medicare taxes and SS taxes that come right out of your check.

mandate is necessary. source: every other fucking nation that insures all yet has lower costs.

Mandate is unconstitutional, source: US constitution.

Originally Posted by desert dude

Mandate is unconstitutional, source: US constitution.

that's only your opinion.

source: objective versus subjective reality.