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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowFarmer View Post
    I am the OP

    As stated yesterday ginjawarrior can start to bore me. I will hash this out with those who actually add to the thread otherwise
    translation = i cannot back up my original claim of felony breast feeding but if i make my text bigger it may seem like im right
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowFarmer View Post
    My Theory of the RIU Troll: Those who troll forums consisting mainly of people breaking laws are most likely Pigs and Pig sympathizers.
    Eh, nope, some of the best trolls on here have the best treadmills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrekin View Post
    Eh, nope, some of the best trolls on here have the best treadmills.
    sssh dont ruin their hyperbole otherwise thery have nothing left
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginjawarrior View Post
    sssh dont ruin their hyperbole otherwise thery have nothing left
    Plus isnt it far more likely someone will go trolling for lulz when baked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrekin View Post
    Plus isnt it far more likely someone will go trolling for lulz when baked?
    i wonder how baked mellowfarmer was when they made this "troll" thread?
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    UPDATE

    Medical marijuana Patient Daisy Bram to be Arraigned Feb 20 in Tehama County

    “Free My Babies!” Pleads Daisy Bram as She Loses Children to Foster Care System a Second Time

    Tuesday, February 19, 2013. “Oh, my God! My baby! My baby! My baby!,” howled Daisy Bram, 30, as her children were removed by Butte County child welfare officials in a September 29, 2011 raid on the rural Concow, CA home Daisy Bram shared with her partner, medical marijuana cultivator Jayme Walsh.

    In California, consumption, possession, and cultivation of marijuana are legal with the medical documentation that Bram and Walsh possess regarding their pain management and mental health conditions, respectively. Despite their medical marijuana patient status, both Bram and Walsh have been charged with felony marijuana possession and possession with intent to sell for the 38-plant medical cannabis garden found at their Butte County home. Child endangerment and child abuse charges stemmed from the marijuana found in the home with children present, as well as Daisy’s consumption of cannabis while breastfeeding.

    On the 2011 police raid audiotape, the distraught mother wailed: “They took my baby! How is he going to eat? He’s only three weeks old!” Daisy Bram’s breastfeeding baby was 28 days old at the time. Daisy’s newborn and his 18-month-old brother Thor spent six months in foster care before she regained custody. She missed Thor’s first haircut and her children were medicated against her will. Shortly after the birth of their third child in late 2012, the family moved out of Butte County to Red Bluff, CA.

    In a tragic repeat of the first police raid, on January 22, 2013, Tehama County officials arrested Bram and Walsh and placed two-year-old Thor, 16-month-old Zeus, and 3-month-old Invictus in foster care. As a result of the new raid in a new county, Daisy faces additional criminal charges for marijuana and has lost her children to the state for a second time. Upon her release, Bram pointed out that officials scheduled their raid for the day before a court hearing about the terms of her release for the Butte County medical marijuana case.

    On February 20, 2013, Daisy Bram will be arraigned on criminal charges for the 53-plant marijuana garden reportedly found by investigator Eric Clay in the January 2013 raid. Daisy has been without her children as well as any means of transportation since January 29, 2013, when officers seized her 2002 Ford Explorer in the parking lot as she arrived for a family court appearance, alleging that the vehicle was purchased with drug money.

    The National Organization for the Reform of marijuana Laws (NORML) Women’s Alliance has publicly supported Daisy in the media as well as the courts. The NORML Women’s Alliance of Butte County filed a lawsuit on March 9, 2012 demanding a Grand Jury investigation into Butte County’s child welfare practices last year. Los Angeles NORML Women’s Alliance community leader Cheri Sicard has declared, “We are extremely concerned when the state uses a mother’s legal status as patient against her in order to rip the children out of her arms and place them in foster care. That is simply not acceptable.”

    According to Daisy, “The state should not be able to enter anyone’s home, abduct the family, severely traumatize the young children, and do so with public tax dollars.” She continues, “It defies logic if you think of a mother consuming cannabis and breast-feeding facing a child abuse charge.” Joe Grumbine of medical cannabis court support organization The Human Solution (www.the-human-solution) is concerned that “Butte County and now Tehama County seem determined to not only vilify this young mother of three because of her medical use of cannabis, but seem bent on stripping her children from her for good” by placing them up for adoption. Daisy told The Human Solution, “My children were healthy and happy before they were grabbed from my arms. Now they are bruised, scratched and not clothed appropriately. My son has a black eye and another has a chipped tooth…I need to get my babies back.”

    Author and cannabis cultivation expert Ed Rosenthal continues to fundraise on Daisy Bram’s behalf via his Green Aid legal defense fund (www.green-aid.com). Criminal defense attorney Michael Levinsohn is representing Daisy Bram pro bono in both Butte County and Tehama County, but funds are required to hire expert witnesses as well as cover potential bail costs. According to Ed Rosenthal, Daisy “is devastated by the loss [of her children] and fully cooperating with Child Protective Services in an effort to have the children placed back in her custody.” Daisy no longer uses cannabis and is legally separated from Jayme Walsh, who also faces marijuana charges in both Butte and Tehama counties.

    Iconic freedom fighter Daisy “FreeMyBabies” Bram has requested court support at her Wednesday, February 20, 2013 criminal arraignment on ten charges including cultivation of marijuana, possession of marijuana for sale, and child abuse. The arraignment is scheduled for 8:05 AM at the Tehama County Courthouse, 633 Washington St., Red Bluff, CA 96080. Daisy is in jeopardy of being remanded into custody at the February 20th arraignment and her attorney says bail, if granted, could be as high as $100,000.

    Donations are accepted via www.green-aid.com and more information about court support can be obtained from Joe Grumbine of The Human Solution (951-436-6312).
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    And in case ginga comes back to troll this is an example of an actually neglectful mother high on drugs:

    Pot-Smoking Mom Who Left Baby on Car Roof & Drove Away Isn't Fit to Parent
    Posted by Maressa Brown on June 3, 2012 at 11:20 AM
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    Seems like Arizona pot-smoking mom Catalina Clouser, 19, is going through something a thousand times worse than the usual weekend hangover. She was arrested after leaving her 5-week-old -- who was strapped safely in a car seat -- on the roof of her car and driving away. It wasn't until she returned home that she realized her baby was missing.

    When Clouser had driven away with the car seat on the roof, the baby fell off the car in the middle of an intersection. Insane! Thank goodness, the little one was found unharmed and strapped into the seat, said Phoenix police spokesman James Holmes.

    Although it sort of boggles the mind how, apparently the baby really was "perfectly OK" when the Phoenix Fire Department officials found him. He was taken to a local hospital and is now in the custody of Arizona Child Protective Services.

    Sounds like a series of events completely reflecting Clouser's complete lack of good parental judgment, immaturity, and selfishness lead up to this point. She had apparently been smoking marijuana late Friday night at a nearby park with her boyfriend. At about 11 p.m., they left the park to buy beer, and the boyfriend was arrested on aggravated DUI charges while on the way, authorities said. Then Clouser, who was shaken up by the arrest, went to a friend's house, where she "admittedly smoked one or two additional bowls of marijuana." And yeah ... the baby was along for what turned into an incredibly scary ride. There's just no real way to excuse this terrible turn of events. It's downright disgraceful and heart-wrenching.

    More from The Stir: Mom Who Left Twins in Car That Rolled Away Deserves More Understanding

    At the very least, Clouser will surely be paying for her actions for a long time -- both emotionally and by facing charges of child abuse and DUI. Yet all of this could have been avoided, if only she would have put her child first over the course of that evening. Given how this nightmare played out, Clouser's actions prove she's not cut out to continue parenting.

    Can you believe this?! What do you think -- should Clouser lose custody of her child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowFarmer View Post
    And in case ginga comes back to troll this is an example of an actually neglectful mother high on drugs:

    Pot-Smoking Mom Who Left Baby on Car Roof & Drove Away Isn't Fit to Parent
    Posted by Maressa Brown on June 3, 2012 at 11:20 AM
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    Seems like Arizona pot-smoking mom Catalina Clouser, 19, is going through something a thousand times worse than the usual weekend hangover. She was arrested after leaving her 5-week-old -- who was strapped safely in a car seat -- on the roof of her car and driving away. It wasn't until she returned home that she realized her baby was missing.

    When Clouser had driven away with the car seat on the roof, the baby fell off the car in the middle of an intersection. Insane! Thank goodness, the little one was found unharmed and strapped into the seat, said Phoenix police spokesman James Holmes.

    Although it sort of boggles the mind how, apparently the baby really was "perfectly OK" when the Phoenix Fire Department officials found him. He was taken to a local hospital and is now in the custody of Arizona Child Protective Services.

    Sounds like a series of events completely reflecting Clouser's complete lack of good parental judgment, immaturity, and selfishness lead up to this point. She had apparently been smoking marijuana late Friday night at a nearby park with her boyfriend. At about 11 p.m., they left the park to buy beer, and the boyfriend was arrested on aggravated DUI charges while on the way, authorities said. Then Clouser, who was shaken up by the arrest, went to a friend's house, where she "admittedly smoked one or two additional bowls of marijuana." And yeah ... the baby was along for what turned into an incredibly scary ride. There's just no real way to excuse this terrible turn of events. It's downright disgraceful and heart-wrenching.

    More from The Stir: Mom Who Left Twins in Car That Rolled Away Deserves More Understanding

    At the very least, Clouser will surely be paying for her actions for a long time -- both emotionally and by facing charges of child abuse and DUI. Yet all of this could have been avoided, if only she would have put her child first over the course of that evening. Given how this nightmare played out, Clouser's actions prove she's not cut out to continue parenting.

    Can you believe this?! What do you think -- should Clouser lose custody of her child?
    Fucking shit...

    How does that even happen
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