"Stand Your Ground" laws, are they a good, or bad idea?

Originally Posted by desert dude

You paint an amusing picture, I will give you that. You also trot out all of the racial hot button stereotypes, but there is no evidence to support any of it. You mention stalking but that is clearly not in play either.

I will grant that Z is not very bright, so the dumb ass label seems reasonable.

Zimmerman's own story offers no reasonable explanation of why the "suspect" was a suspect at all, except he "didnt belong there"

Saying im using hotbutton racial issues doesnt change the fact that zimmerman shot a black dude, and the only apparent reason for his suspicion, following, stalking, and eventual killing of said black man was the dude's blackitude. Zimmerman wasnt tracking the white kids at that store, or the asian kids or the cuban kids, he was stalking his chosen suspect, who was BLACK, and that blackness is the only reason i see for his actions. Zimmermans own story asserts that there were numerous burglaries in the area, and the perps were black, this does not equate to all blacks are engaged in burglaries. I can only conclude he followed Martin based on racial prejudice.

Stalking definately WAS in play. as a hunter i know what stalking is, and it's following your target with predatory intent. He doesnt have to make a Trayvon Death Shrine, or burn the eyes out of Trayvon pictures, or write creepy psychosexual messages on the wall of his bathroom in his own blood. He followed Martin, in a car, on foot, and down a dark alley. Stalking. plain and simple.

Maybe Zimmerman smelled weed on the dude does that mean zimmerman can start shooting potheads too? maybe i should start carrying my pistols again. seems lately i been smellin like cannabis a lot, and i might have to self-defense my way out of a sticky situation if thats the new rules around here.

Originally Posted by desert dude

You paint an amusing picture, I will give you that. You also trot out all of the racial hot button stereotypes, but there is no evidence to support any of it. You mention stalking but that is clearly not in play either.

I will grant that Z is not very bright, so the dumb ass label seems reasonable.

no evidence to support it.........what retarded world do you live in?

Do none of the supposed Libertarians on here support Martins right to walk around "looking like he's on drugs"?

Im sure most of the smokers here can appreciate having a toot and going for a walk, would you like to be followed, confronted and shot down for walking around?

Originally Posted by Harrekin

Do none of the supposed Libertarians on here support Martins right to walk around "looking like he's on drugs"?

Im sure most of the smokers here can appreciate having a toot and going for a walk, would you like to be followed, confronted and shot down for walking around?

Right in the X-ring with that one! cn

Originally Posted by tomahawk2406

no evidence to support it.........what retarded world do you live in?

when zimm wasn't busy calling the police about pool parties, potholes, or cars that appeared to be rocking back and forth with a female yelling, he was calling in to report black people walking towards the back entrance. and only black people.

yes, zimm called the cops about potholes.

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

when zimm wasn't busy calling the police about pool parties, potholes, or cars that appeared to be rocking back and forth with a female yelling, he was calling in to report black people walking towards the back entrance. and only black people.

yes, zimm called the cops about potholes.

i would love to have a full visual of what the situation was with desert dude directing the video.

Originally Posted by desert dude

You paint an amusing picture, I will give you that. You also trot out all of the racial hot button stereotypes, but there is no evidence to support any of it. You mention stalking but that is clearly not in play either.

I will grant that Z is not very bright, so the dumb ass label seems reasonable.

not very bright? give me a break he's a fucking piece of shit.

Originally Posted by tomahawk2406

i would love to have a full visual of what the situation was with desert dude directing the video.

martin is walking home, kicking cute puppies and flashing gang signs at scared old ladies. zimmerman is driving to target, whistling a merry tune, when he sees martin.

"hello there young man, anything i can help you with?" zimmerman merrily asks.

martin lunges at zimm. zimm tries to drive away but martin is too strong and overpowers the truck, disabling it with one swing of his ghetto fist. zimm cowers in terror. martin grabs him and pulls him out of the truck and starts smashing him into the concrete for an hour as zimmerman begs for mercy.

zimmerman fakes dead, butmartin is not done yet.

"i'm gonna rape your little virgin butthole, cracker spick" utters martin, reaching for zimmerman's pants.

martin tries to disrobe zimm, and notices the gun. zimmerman springs back to life and says "please don't make me use this gun, i don't want to".

a look of rage and murder crosses martin's eyes. he starts wailing on him again, and a struggle for the gun ensues. zimmerman screams like a little child for help.

martin wins control of the gun, shoots himself, and says to zimm as he bleeds out "let's see you deal with the fallout of this one" and then collapses dead.

zimm starts crying in despair "i only ever wanted to help!".

that's how it happened according to desert dude.