Oh no, it happened again...

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

i gave mine up for a shitty job that paid as much as UI. i don't think most people want to be on welfare or even UI for that matter, it's a pathetically small check and meager lifestyle. and i don't think that the number of people who do want to be on welfare are the majority, and i certainly know you can't cite any statistic to show that there is.

It is pathetically small, but one adjusts one's lifestyle to what they bring in I suppose. I didn't say it was glamorous or that EVERYBODY is hooked on that shit........just most of 'em. It's like heroin, that "free money"! lol!

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

how hard is it to get a job at walmart or mcdonalds?

If you are a convicted felon or were discharged under "other than honorable conditions" from the miltary? Impossible. Besides, most people would do better drawing welfare or UI than working at either of those 2 places.

Originally Posted by doc111

If you are a convicted felon or were discharged under "other than honorable conditions" from the miltary? Impossible. Besides, most people would do better drawing welfare or UI than working at either of those 2 places.

male prostitution?

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

male prostitution?

lol! I heard the "bottom" fell out of that market years ago.

Originally Posted by doc111

lol! Fair enough, but I think it's also "common sense" that most people who are on welfare don't want to give up that "gubmint cheese"! I probably wouldn't. I've been on unemployment many years ago and I had a hell of a time giving that shit up and going back to work.

He ignores facts regularly.

Use Ireland as an example, €22bill in welfare for a population of 4mill.

For America, that'd be the equivalent of approx $1.75 trillion a year. Is that really sensible?

Originally Posted by Mr Neutron

​Yeah, yeah I know, it's from Fox, get over it, doesn't mean it's not true. First Puerto Rico and now Estonia.

The Austerity Myth

By John Stossel
Published June 8, 2012 | FoxNews.com

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As you probably know, Greece is broke because of generous social programs and overpaid government workers. The Greeks accumulated so much debt that they needed to beg for multiple bailouts. Now we're told that Greece has been forced to drastically cut government through "austerity measures."
Liberals say those "austerity" measures have hurt the Greek economy and increased unemployment. This austerity argument seems bizarre, since Greece's "austerity" is a myth.
But one European country has enacted real austerity.
During the crash of 2008, Estonia's economic output fell by 18 percent. Instead of calling for more government, Estonians called for less. Estonians lived under communism for decades. They know that central planning is a fatal conceit.
Estonia cut government, lowered government worker salaries, raised the pension age, lowered taxes and simplified the tax code.
What happened? While most western economies struggled last year, Estonia's economy grew almost 8 percent. It's the only country in the Euro-zone with a budget surplus. Its national debt is just 6 percent of GDP, compared to 165 percent in Greece.
With smaller government, less debt, and low taxes, Estonia attracts businesses. Hundreds of tech companies are now based there. Skype, the internet phone company, was started in Estonia.
Politicians, even Mitt Romney, say that spending cuts will throw the economy back into recession. They ignore examples like Estonia.
The political class wants to make life better by contenting to spend more. I say, No They Can't!

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so your saying greece's austerity measures don't exist?

Originally Posted by Mr Neutron

​Yeah, yeah I know, it's from Fox, get over it, doesn't mean it's not true. First Puerto Rico and now Estonia.

The Austerity Myth

By John Stossel
Published June 8, 2012 | FoxNews.com

ADVERTISEMENT

As you probably know, Greece is broke because of generous social programs and overpaid government workers. The Greeks accumulated so much debt that they needed to beg for multiple bailouts. Now we're told that Greece has been forced to drastically cut government through "austerity measures."
Liberals say those "austerity" measures have hurt the Greek economy and increased unemployment. This austerity argument seems bizarre, since Greece's "austerity" is a myth.
But one European country has enacted real austerity.
During the crash of 2008, Estonia's economic output fell by 18 percent. Instead of calling for more government, Estonians called for less. Estonians lived under communism for decades. They know that central planning is a fatal conceit.
Estonia cut government, lowered government worker salaries, raised the pension age, lowered taxes and simplified the tax code.
What happened? While most western economies struggled last year, Estonia's economy grew almost 8 percent. It's the only country in the Euro-zone with a budget surplus. Its national debt is just 6 percent of GDP, compared to 165 percent in Greece.
With smaller government, less debt, and low taxes, Estonia attracts businesses. Hundreds of tech companies are now based there. Skype, the internet phone company, was started in Estonia.
Politicians, even Mitt Romney, say that spending cuts will throw the economy back into recession. They ignore examples like Estonia.
The political class wants to make life better by contenting to spend more. I say, No They Can't!

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So which Greek God is the god of Austerity? I know Zeus was god of thunder and Apollo was the sun god...Was Hades the god of austerity?

If you can't see the difference between forced austerity imposed by a different country and austerity imposed by your own government in the best interest's of itself, you have no idea how economics work.