Rand Paul you're on my shit list.

Originally Posted by deprave

Indeed you are, your missing a lot. There is countless ways you can be "left and for small government", any issue, the two are not even related whatsoever. Id like you to tell me how they are related and I will explain that. I can list every issue but that's pretty pointless, because yes I mean every single issue. You are pretty much denying the existence of every political philosophy known to man, you know why? Because everyone is essentially a libertarian or anarchist only to which degree is the variation, Statism is not based on philosophical understands, it is not based on moral principles, nor rational thought. Statism is a disease and you are infected with it. This "argument" you are having IS the state, People are not the state, its only a state of mind. People are based on moral principles, ethics, philosophy, rational thought, logic. This entity known as government is not. These are the very foundations of Libertarian and Anarchist philosophies and in statism again they do not exist. It is not based on humanity or in reality.

FYI a right libertarian or anarchist would be the minority, I seriously challenge you to find me a political philosophy that is right libertarian. There is only 4 that I can think of compared to dozens upon dozens of left libertarian or anarchist philosophies and they are pretty much in the center. Minarchism (essentially a "Republican"), Market Anarchy, Neoliberalism, & Anarcho-capitalism...We had a thread about this before and came to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as a right wing libertarian, those 4 lean right but they are technically more in the center.

Tell you what just take one week off of fox news or whatever mainstream media crap is brainwashing you and go read through that wikipedia link I gave you please for the love of god.

Obama 2012! lets get a real revolution started, 1776 style!

Originally Posted by deprave

Indeed you are, your missing a lot. There is countless ways you can be "left and for small government", any issue, the two are not even related whatsoever. Id like you to tell me how they are related and I will explain that. I can list every issue but that's pretty pointless, because yes I mean every single issue. You are pretty much denying the existence of every political philosophy known to man, you know why? Because everyone is essentially a libertarian or anarchist only to which degree is the variation, Statism is not based on philosophical understands, it is not based on moral principles, nor rational thought. Statism is a disease and you are infected with it. This "argument" you are having IS the state, People are not the state, its only a state of mind. People are based on moral principles, ethics, philosophy, rational thought, logic. This entity known as government is not. These are the very foundations of Libertarian and Anarchist philosophies and in statism again they do not exist. It is not based on humanity or in reality.

FYI a right libertarian or anarchist would be the minority, I seriously challenge you to find me a political philosophy that is right libertarian. There is only 4 that I can think of compared to dozens upon dozens of left libertarian or anarchist philosophies and they are pretty much in the center. Minarchism (essentially a "Republican"), Market Anarchy, Neoliberalism, & Anarcho-capitalism...We had a thread about this before and came to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as a right wing libertarian, those 4 lean right but they are technically more in the center.

Tell you what just take one week off of fox news or whatever mainstream media crap is brainwashing you and go read through that wikipedia link I gave you please for the love of god.

It must be frustrating. FYI, I know people who proclaim themselves to be libertarians who say their libertarianism requires them to stand up for the rights of the unborn child. And others who say it means it's the woman's body etc etc. In fact, I can find you libertarians who disagree with each other on virtually any issue. I don't see anything coherent to it at all. I think if you take away the kids who are acting out their little rebellion drama, there's nothing much to libertarianism at all. For sure they (whoever they are) are having zero impact on how history is unfolding.

Originally Posted by Illegal Smile

It must be frustrating. FYI, I know people who proclaim themselves to be libertarians who say their libertarianism requires them to stand up for the rights of the unborn child. And others who say it means it's the woman's body etc etc. In fact, I can find you libertarians who disagree with each other on virtually any issue. I don't see anything coherent to it at all. I think if you take away the kids who are acting out their little rebellion drama, there's nothing much to libertarianism at all. For sure they (whoever they are) are having zero impact on how history is unfolding.

It must be frustrating to you that race isn't important anymore.

Originally Posted by abandonconflict

It must be frustrating to you that race isn't important anymore.

Every astute political analyst I know of seems to think race is more important than ever. It must be important or you wouldn't have bent over backwards trying to inject it into a discussion of libertarianism.

Originally Posted by Illegal Smile

It must be frustrating. FYI, I know people who proclaim themselves to be libertarians who say their libertarianism requires them to stand up for the rights of the unborn child. And others who say it means it's the woman's body etc etc. In fact, I can find you libertarians who disagree with each other on virtually any issue. I don't see anything coherent to it at all. I think if you take away the kids who are acting out their little rebellion drama, there's nothing much to libertarianism at all. For sure they (whoever they are) are having zero impact on how history is unfolding.

Take this paragraph and replace the word libertarian and it's variants with almost any other word and it will still make sense.

So what is it that you dislike about libertarian doctrine?


Just hate Paulbots?


As for injecting race into the discussion, it is simple, you're blatantly racist and I'm just making sure that you wear your ghost outfit in public.

Originally Posted by abandonconflict

Take this paragraph and replace the word libertarian and it's variants with almost any other word and it will still make sense.

So what is it that you dislike about libertarian doctrine?

The incoherence.

ps You just joined UncleBuck on ignore.

Originally Posted by Illegal Smile

The incoherence.

ps You just joined UncleBuck on ignore.

LOL weak!