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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    That is what we have now. America started out capitalist and has been moving toward socialism for the last 100 years, or so. Our so-called leaders keep waffling back and forth between free market ideas and socialism. THAT is the problem.
    You people that think socialism is so great are in the wrong country. America was not founded on socialist ideals. YOU are the ones causing ALL of the problems.
    I and others, want to get America back to what it was supposed to be, a free market economy with a small federal government that protects individual rights above ALL else.



    That's fine. But why is it a choice between communism and fascism? Is that all there is? If you want communism so bad, there are plenty of countries that already communist. You have many choices of utopias to go to. Just because YOU would rather be a subject/slave to the state doesn't mean that is what everybody else should want, too.
    Quit trying to subvert MY country.
    Why do you live in Mexico ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    That's fine. But why is it a choice between communism and fascism? Is that all there is? If you want communism so bad, there are plenty of countries that already communist. You have many choices of utopias to go to. Just because YOU would rather be a subject/slave to the state doesn't mean that is what everybody else should want, too.
    Quit trying to subvert MY country.
    theres a huge misunderstanding here, i simply said id choose to be extremely leftist than a fascist, not that i "want communism so bad". lol, please show me where i said that, you seem way too patriotic about your country. lemme guess, america has always been right about everything, and this country has always been ours. better yet, its "YOURS". your everything other countrys hate about america, the smug attitude, its you who puts the dunce cap on america. we shouldnt go around acting like our country's perfect, go anywhere else and im sure they'll call you an imperialist dog, not that theyre wrong either. dont get me wrong, or better yet, completely change what i say, i love my country, i fuckin LOVE this place(since you seem to emphasize things by capitalizing them, im just trying to communicate on your level so you might actually understand this post RATHER than calling me a communist), i wouldnt choose to be anywhere else. idk, maybe canada with the way shits going over here, all i have to say is theres plenty to improve, im sure im talking to the absolute wrong person about this though. how long have you been part of the tea party, btw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by abandonconflict View Post
    Point to where in the constitution it says this is a capitalist nation or stfu.
    Show me in the Constitution where it says we should follow failed policies like socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by londonfog View Post
    Why do you live in Mexico ???
    i cant emphasize how funny this is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abandonconflict View Post
    No, there are no communist countries. They are as far off from that as we are from democracy.
    On the crack, again? For the THIRD time... what democracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    Show me in the Constitution where it says we should follow failed policies like socialism.
    It doesn't say we can't.
    "But one thing gives hope – the visible swing in public opinion...In that spectacular disaster the working class, the middle class and even a section of the business community could see the utter rottenness of private capitalism." ~George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    Show me in the Constitution where it says we should follow failed policies like socialism.
    "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States"


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    Quote Originally Posted by abandonconflict View Post
    It doesn't say we can't.
    In fact, it says that powers not enumerated are NOT the purview of the federal government. It most definitely does say we can't.

    General welfare cause is a lame excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abandonconflict View Post
    I love how this thread started off as an attack against democrats for perceived burden and turned into conservatives defending false religious beliefs.
    I'm not a conservative, so your lame insults have no effect on me and it wasn't me that hijacked the thread. I'm just standing up to your insanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    That is what we have now. America started out capitalist and has been moving toward socialism for the last 100 years, or so. Our so-called leaders keep waffling back and forth between free market ideas and socialism. THAT is the problem.
    You people that think socialism is so great are in the wrong country. America was not founded on socialist ideals. YOU are the ones causing ALL of the problems.
    I and others, want to get America back to what it was supposed to be, a free market economy with a small federal government that protects individual rights above ALL else.
    you mean, we've been working towards a plan that doesnt operate off the very works of greed? is it so wrong that we want to eliminate the lower class, better yet, we dont want homeless people to exist just for the sake of a few senators not having jet skis? please tell me whats so bad about a little more equality. im sure all your tax cuts are going towards a good cause, just another vacation for the rich and less pay for the ones that actually work for their money, rather than being born into wealth. this country wasnt built up on capitalism either, your ignorance amazes me. always glad to see another fox news viewer on riu, just another person to make fun of while they make a fool out of themselves, its like kicking someone while theyre falling down stairs.
    im on riu mostly during the outdoor season, so PM to get in contact, posts could take longer for a response but ill check in when i can.


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