Real Inconvenient Truths.... About Abortion

Selwyn Duke
JBS
Wednesday, February 27, 2008

Overcome with grief and remorse, a British woman kills herself after having an abortion.

Follow this link to the original source: " Artist hanged herself after aborting her twins"

Out of Britain comes a very sad, sad story. Emma Beck, an artist tormented by having aborted her twins, was found hanging at her home a day before her 31st birthday. Expressing her grief and regret in a suicide note, she wrote: "I should never have had an abortion. I see now I would have been a good mum."

While suicide isn’t a common consequence of abortion, the emotional torment that can precipitate it certainly is. Attesting to this is Theresa Karminski Burke, a psychotherapist who has counseled hundreds of "Post-abortion Trauma" victims. In her book Forbidden Grief: The Unspoken Pain of Abortion, she quotes many of these poor souls. One of them, Ellen, expressed well her sisterhood of pain’s unremitting torment, saying, "I wish I had never done it. I will never forgive myself. Sometimes I could kill myself for that."

But what is this "it"? Is it just, as the pro-abortion side would say, the extraction of a "lump of cells" or an "unviable tissue mass"? Are they correct when asserting that such a woman’s feelings are the problem, not what caused them?

Another woman quoted by Burke would answer with a plaintive no. Her name is Katrina, and, like so many, she was told that what grew within her wasn’t a baby, just a tissue mass. Here’s what she said about her painful clash with reality after aborting her 16-week-old child:

I went over to the sink to see what they [the doctors] were looking at. There were all the reassembled parts of my baby; arms, legs, torso and what must have been the head. They were tiny and perfect. In that instant I felt an incredible horror. This was my baby! Torn apart, in bloody pieces. My doctor, the abortionist, the staff – all liars! I hated them. I left the office in a state of numb repulsion. I began to despise myself even more than them.
Despite such powerful testimonials, many on the pro-abortion side will still aver that we don’t really know when the unborn become human. So let’s examine the matter.

In what month would you say this transition occurs? If you’re not sure, I’ll make it easy: Pick any month you choose. I will then ask, what week of that month? What day of that week? What hour of that day? What minute of that hour? What second of that minute? Then, what nanosecond of that second?

This illuminates the matter. The attainment of personhood cannot be a month but a moment, yet it doesn’t make sense to say that one moment what exists is not human but the next it is so.

That is, unless that moment is conception. For, prior to then, "it" doesn’t exist.

Conception is obviously a seminal point, for it isn’t development, but that which initiates it. It’s much as with fire. Would we say that a fire is only a fire when it’s of use to us, such as when we need heat? No, once you have the necessary ingredients — combustible materials, oxygen, a spark and ignition — a fire is born. It may develop, grow and spread, but a fire is a fire no matter how small. And it will then continue until it runs its course and exhausts itself — or until it is snuffed out.

It’s this reality that haunts these hapless women; it is their tell-tale heart. They learn in a most merciless way what so many deny, and denial it is. Thus, we hide the Truth with euphemisms, those verbal Trojan Horses we trot out when we don’t want others – or ourselves – to know what we’re actually doing.

In this case, killing.

As Lt. Col. Dave Grossman said in his book On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society:

The burden of killing is so great that most men try not to admit that they have killed . . . Even the language of men at war is full of denial of the enormity of what they have done. Most soldiers do not ‘kill,’ instead the enemy was knocked over, wasted, greased, taken out, and mopped up . . . .
I also think of, "collateral damage," "neutralizing the enemy," "terminating a pregnancy," "dilation and extraction," "a matter of choice," "unviable tissue mass" . . . .

As for abortion-speak, it serves a cause whose need to whitewash the killing is even greater. While a war can be just, abortion involves not a self-defense rationale but a self-indulgence one. It’s hard to justify the killing of innocent people, no matter how small, so we make them even smaller, reducing them to something less than people. They are "lumps of cells."

Speaking of language and dehumanization, philosophy professor Mike Pakaluk draws an interesting parallel. He begins by asking if the following is a good representation of the "pro-choice" position:

If each person will only agree to mind his own business, and leave his neighbors alone, there will be peace forever between us... I am now speaking of rights under the constitution, and not of moral or religious rights... It is for women to decide ... the moral and religious right of the abortion question for themselves within their own limits.... I repeat that the principle is the right of each woman to decide this abortion question for herself, to have an abortion or not, as she chooses, and it does not become a pro-lifer, or anybody else, to tell her she has no conscience, that she is living in a state of iniquity... We have enough objects of charity at home, and it is our duty to take care of our own poor, and our own suffering, before we go abroad to intermeddle with other people’s business.
Interestingly, these words aren’t Pakaluk’s. Rather, he took one of Stephen Douglas’ defenses of slavery, and substituted "‘abortion’ for ‘slavery’; ‘woman’ for ‘state’; and ‘a pro-lifer’ for ‘Mr. Lincoln.’"

He then asks the pro-abortion side:

"Doesn’t the similarity between your defense of abortion, and Douglas’ defense of slavery, bother you in any way? Does it raise in your mind any suspicions at all that you might just be on the wrong side?"

‘Tis a point to ponder.


from: Real Inconvenient Truths.... About Abortion | The John Birch Society - Truth, Leadership, Freedom




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everything is a personal decision. should we never debate anything?

still, i do agree that murdering children isn't a political topic one bit - but preventing their murder might be.




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I think that abortion should be a womans choice, at the same time though, women should be more responsible and abortion should not be used as a birth control method.

I believe it should be outlawed after the first trimester. After working in a neonatal intensive care unit and seeing babies born at 22-24 weeks then going home months later... proves to me that abortion that late is murder.

This may seem shallow of me but, I had a good friend who got pregnant and she was not to positive who the father was... so she went back and forth whether she was going to keep it or not and it was depending on if she could figure out who the father was...utimately she couldnt figure it out and she had too much pride to get a paternity test SO, she aborted at 29 weeks. I lost respect for her that day and never regained it. She felt "HIM" move, and that was her 3rd late term abortion.

In almost all states late term abortion is legal, which means even though the baby is viable and could totally be adopted by a family that has been longing to have a child, that just because a mother is "depressed" a doctor can go up in her at 40 weeks and snap the babies neck because she couldnt deal with the fact that there was a baby out there, thats hers, that she is not taking care of him/her.

If a baby is not viable and has medical problems or the mothers physical health is affected, then that to me is the only time late term abortion is ok.

i don't think that's shallow at all, jm. people who want to retroactively apply birth control to their living children are barbarians of the most primitive sort. it stands to reason that their behavior would be shocking to anyone of good mental health.







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Im 100% against abortion & so is my wife,it's not for us but that dont mean for other people abortion isnt the right choice ,im not talking about decisions based on shit like rape or incest either,im talking about decisions made by adults for personal reasons that are their business & their business alone,its none of my business what other couples do with abortion.

I also gotta add that most of that story sounds like bullshit propaganda hype to me,wtf kinda doctor throws a newly aborted fetus in a sink,then calls other doctors over to come take a peek,then to top it all off allows the mother to come join the fun.i refuse to believe one iota of that.

Anybody who believes that story is pretty nieve in my opinion.

Actually my mom had an abortion and they put it in a plastic container and she seen it when she woke up. Thats not medically professional at all of course, but it could happen. I doubt it was in a sink though. I also doubt they would intentionally let her see it.

7X, for someone that professes freedom of choice, doesn't taking away a womans right seem to be the antithesis of freedom. Why is it not OK to kill a fetus, but Ok to kill the person after they are born, AKA the death penalty. There are some larger questions to the anti-abortion issue, usually championed by right wing Gurus. To Kill or not to Kill, that is the question. Don't kill the fetus, but go ahead and bomb those mothers and children of our "enemies". Let the unborn goo survive, but napalm those villagers in "enemy" territory. It seems to me that there is a wee bit of hypocrisy going on around the abortion question.

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Death Penalty is killing someone who killed an innocent victim.
An abortion you are killing an innocent person...late term of course.

she has the choice to take any one of hundreds of contraceptives which prevent conception. if she chooses not to prevent pregnancy then we can discern that she chose pregnancy. once she has made her choice to become pregnant she shouldn't be able to use violent force to terminate the child - at any stage of life.

death penalty - if life has any value at all then it makes sense to inflict that highest toll on those who disregard life. this penalty, when applied uniformly, lowers crime. imagine that!

war - it becomes an obsolete concept the moment that we choose to value all life.




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"But even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race."

- Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States of America, Hero to the servants of big government, Racist War Monger