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Yeah, if you research that company Diebold, I think they've since changed their name, there's a lot of suspicious back door kind of deals going on. A team from Princeton did a study to see if they could manipulate the current voting system using current technology and succeeded. Had a mock election with the actual machines to see if they could hack them and they did.

Think of other countries, Russia, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Mexico.. there are a lot of places where corruption is clear within the government. Pablo Escobar controlled a portion of the Colombian military and had politicians in his pocket when he was around. If you apply the same logic to our system it seems you would see similar things.

Originally Posted by Padawanbater2

Yeah, if you research that company Diebold, I think they've since changed their name, there's a lot of suspicious back door kind of deals going on. A team from Princeton did a study to see if they could manipulate the current voting system using current technology and succeeded. Had a mock election with the actual machines to see if they could hack them and they did.

links?

Think of other countries, Russia, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Mexico.. there are a lot of places where corruption is clear within the government. Pablo Escobar controlled a portion of the Colombian military and had politicians in his pocket when he was around. If you apply the same logic to our system it seems you would see similar things.

yeah im pretty sure thats "pleading"

convoluted logic for certain, that "if then" dilemma doesn't fit

Originally Posted by mysunnyboy

convoluted logic for certain, that "if then" dilemma doesn't fit

he's normally very good at this in the Spirituality & Sexuality & Philosophy forum. if this was a religious debate he'd be all over that

Originally Posted by ginjawarrior

links?

yeah im pretty sure thats "pleading"

https://jhalderm.com/pub/papers/ts-evt07-init.pdf

Main Findings The main findings of our study are:


1. Malicious software running on a single voting machine can steal votes with little if any risk of detection.
The malicious software can modify all of the records, audit logs, and counters kept by the voting
machine, so that even careful forensic examination of these records will find nothing amiss. We have
constructed demonstration software that carries out this vote-stealing attack.


2. Anyone who has physical access to a voting machine, or to a memory card that will later be inserted
into a machine, can install said malicious software using a simple method that takes as little as one
minute. In practice, poll workers and others often have unsupervised access to the machines.


3. AccuVote-TS machines are susceptible to voting-machine viruses—computer viruses that can spread
malicious software automatically and invisibly from machine to machine during normal pre- and
post-election activity. We have constructed a demonstration virus that spreads in this way, installing
our demonstration vote-stealing program on every machine it infects.


4. While some of these problems can be eliminated by improving Diebold’s software, others cannot be
remedied without replacing the machines’ hardware. Changes to election procedures would also be
required to ensure security.

Originally Posted by mysunnyboy

convoluted logic for certain, that "if then" dilemma doesn't fit

I'm saying that it's rampant in other countries, and obviously so, why would our country, much more powerful than any of those other countries, be any different?

Originally Posted by Padawanbater2

I'm saying that it's rampant in other countries, and obviously so, why would our country, much more powerful than any of those other countries, be any different?

uhhhh because we are Americans and have more sense

Originally Posted by mysunnyboy

uhhhh because we are Americans and have more sense

Take a trip to any Wallyworld and try saying that with a straight face.

those aren't the Americans i'm talking about
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