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    Ok, let me get this straight, Stand Your Ground in Fl. allows broad leeway to a citizen killing a person based on an actual threat or even a perceived threat. Seriously. So....if this woman had killed her husband she would have been good to go. But this is Florida. This is the South.
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    (CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
    Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.
    CBS Affiliate WETV reports that Circuit Court Judge James Daniel handed down the sentence Friday.

    Under Florida's mandatory minimum sentencing requirements Alexander could receive a lesser sentence, even though she has never been in trouble with the law before. Judge Daniel said the law did not allow for extenuating or mitigating circumstances to reduce the sentence below the 20-year minimum.
    "I really was crying in there," Marissa's 11-year-old daughter told WETV. "I didn't want to cry in court, but I just really feel hurt. I don't think this should have been happening."
    Alexander was convicted of attempted murder after she rejected a plea deal for a three-year prison sentence. She said she did not believe she did anything wrong.

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    Her husband, Rico Gray, a man with a documented history of abuse including an assault on her while she was pregnant, threatened to kill her nine days after the birth of their daughter. This time, Marissa wasn’t going to put up with another beating. When threatened, she fired a warning shot into the ceiling to let Gray know that the abuse was over and he’d better think twice before coming after her again.
    She was recently denied a new trial after appealing to the judge to reconsider her case based on Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law. The law states that the victim of a crime does not have to attempt to run for safety and can immediately retaliate in self-defense.
    Alexander's attorney said she was clearly defending herself and should not have to spend the next two decades behind bars.
    Alexander's case has drawn support from domestic abuse advocates - and comparison to the case of neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who has claimed a "Stand Your Ground" defense in his fatal shooting of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

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    same as in UK if a man is down stairs you have to phone and sit tight.

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    She had to have done more than just fire shots into the ceiling to warrant attempted murder. Firing shots into the ceiling does not produce the requisite intent for attempted murder.

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    This woman has a Masters degree, 3 kids, and has never been in trouble with the law. Her husband has a history of abuse against her (she has a restraining order against him), and even admitted that he verbally and physically abuses all FIVE of his baby's mothers. He told her he was going to kill her and she fired ONE warning shot in the air. The day before, a FL man got sentenced to 15 years for murder. How does a man get 15 for killing someone, and she fires a shot that harms no one and gets 20 years?? The worst part, she has three kids! She just had a baby who is less that two weeks old. I know it is normal to assume that she had to do more and that you're not getting the whole story, but injustice is a lot more prevalent that you know, even though we don't like to think about it. Read all the facts if you don't believe, this is truly a case of FUCKED UP.

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    Why do we punish people so severely when no victim exists? No one person suffered any kind of damage to body or property.

    She would be free as a bird if she would have shot him dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoDrama View Post
    Why do we punish people so severely when no victim exists? No one person suffered any kind of damage to body or property.
    So do you not consider someone a victim unless their is physical suffering? Seems to me it's a bit like saying that there is no such thing as a victim of racist abuse unless there was physical harm.
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    The whole stand your ground law is fucked up. But I believe that if you are going to pull a gun, you should be ready to kill.

    A couple years ago a kid stabbed another kid to death at the bus stop and got away with it because he tried to avoid his attacker but was still attacked. I'm sure if the kid just pulled a knife and threatened the attacker, he would be behind bars now

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    Quote Originally Posted by tip top toker View Post
    So do you not consider someone a victim unless their is physical suffering? Seems to me it's a bit like saying that there is no such thing as a victim of racist abuse unless there was physical harm.
    I believe ND was referring to the woman being punished so severely when she caused no physical harm to the man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canna_420 View Post
    same as in UK if a man is down stairs you have to phone and sit tight.

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    not any more.............................................. .http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...osecution.html ..............................but what is 'reasonable force'
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    What he said was no victim exists as there was no harm to body or property. Hence my comment on how racist abuse must therefore not be a crime as there can as such be no victim unless the abuse is physical to body or property.

    If he meant something else, then he should have stated something else, not that that there is not a victim unless harm to body or property. Harm to the mind can be just as damaging as harm to the body. If someone fired a gun towards me, even if it wasn't at me directly, i would want to see them rot in hell for all eternity. If you're firing a gun even at a ceiling, it's either firing a gun for absolutely no reason, or firing a gun to say take another step and the next one goes through you.
    Last edited by tip top toker; 05-15-2012 at 01:11 PM.
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