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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    There has to be winners and losers and all those in between in a free society. A robust economy cannot be sustained if we reward the losers by penalizing the winners, this is where incentive and motivation become stagnant.
    That's absurd, how many rich people are going to trade their life for welfare? It's an insane argument.

    Protecting purchasing power at the expense of society is like denying people a college education to increase the value of you're own. It's selfish and bad for society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    ... and people that feel taking money from anybody's wages, are immoral thieves.
    Guess I have to look at robin hood in an entirely new light now.

    The rich benefit more from a society where the wealth is more equally distributed but their power and influence is lessened. It's about control nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fungus Gnat View Post
    Guess I have to look at robin hood in an entirely new light now.

    The rich benefit more from a society where the wealth is more equally distributed but their power and influence is lessened. It's about control nothing more.
    Irrelevant. Robin Hood is a fictional character that ROBBED the rich and gave to the poor. He didn't take from those who work for a living.
    I agree, it is about control, what does wealth bring... more control. Who controls the wealth? To certain extent, the wealthy but in the big picture of things, government controls the wealth. They establish the laws and regulations that allow for the rich and powerful to gain more wealth and power. Raising taxes on the rich is only going to chase them out of the taxpayer pool.
    Taxation inhibits growth of whatever is taxed. Between wage taxes and minimum wage laws, it's amazing that there is any middle class at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    Irrelevant. Robin Hood is a fictional character that ROBBED the rich and gave to the poor. He didn't take from those who work for a living.
    I agree, it is about control, what does wealth bring... more control. Who controls the wealth? To certain extent, the wealthy but in the big picture of things, government controls the wealth. They establish the laws and regulations that allow for the rich and powerful to gain more wealth and power. Raising taxes on the rich is only going to chase them out of the taxpayer pool.
    Taxation inhibits growth of whatever is taxed. Between wage taxes and minimum wage laws, it's amazing that there is any middle class at all.
    You must have missed the memo, since 08 the middle class is now all but dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    Irrelevant. Robin Hood is a fictional character that ROBBED the rich and gave to the poor. He didn't take from those who work for a living.
    I agree, it is about control, what does wealth bring... more control. Who controls the wealth? To certain extent, the wealthy but in the big picture of things, government controls the wealth. They establish the laws and regulations that allow for the rich and powerful to gain more wealth and power. Raising taxes on the rich is only going to chase them out of the taxpayer pool.
    Taxation inhibits growth of whatever is taxed. Between wage taxes and minimum wage laws, it's amazing that there is any middle class at all.
    Government is a tool, without it you return to oligarchy that control you directly without any recourse. Just because something can be abused doesn't negate its value. Progressive taxation was around before the middle class even existed. To blame it for its fall is a bit disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    ... and people that feel taking money from anybody's wages, are immoral thieves.
    yep, there we go again.

    don't use force against me but i can use force against you.

    hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    yep, there we go again.

    don't use force against me but i can use force against you.

    hypocrite.
    Bored again? I won't go there because you will just manufacture some crack-induced collective nonsense and claim it to be fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowFarmer View Post
    How can taxes be theft in a Democracy?
    What Democracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Neutron View Post
    What Democracy?
    He's confused between Democracy and Constitutional Republic
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