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Old 02-21-2008, 10:12 AM
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Dependency breeds
suffering and death
Exclusive: Joseph Farah cringes at horror story
resulting from rampant reliance on government


Posted: February 19, 2008
1:00 am Eastern



By Joseph Farah


There's a bold new political and cultural push on in America to make everyone dependent on government.

You don't need guns to defend yourself and your family, just call 911.
You don't need to prepare for disasters, just call 911.

You don't need to worry about paying for health care yourself, just call 911.
There isn't anything government can't do for you.

That's what we're being told.

We're all going to live in brand new utopian world, according to the swirling rhetoric of Barack Obama and the shrill demands of Hillary Clinton. We'll just tax the rich, then the rest of us will be on Easy Street. All our basic needs will be met. We'll live in a just and fair society.

It's amazing so many people actually believe this stuff – especially after social experiments like this have failed miserably over the last century – resulting in massive suffering and deaths numbered in the hundreds of millions.

But believe they do.

I'm not sure there's any way to reason with people who are intellectually dysfunctional – whose own greed and envy motivate them to resemble the French revolutionaries far more than our own American revolutionaries.
Having said that, let's try a little shock treatment.

While you read the rest of this column, please listen to this audio of a 911 call placed by Brenda Orr of Doylestown, Penn., last month when the multiple sclerosis victim's bed became engulfed in fire.

Remember, Brenda didn't have a choice about relying on government. You still do.

Panicked by the flames, she did what Americans have become conditioned to do in any emergency – call 911.

Even though 10 dispatchers and four supervisors were on duty and no other calls were coming into the emergency center, a county government operation, no one answered the call for 28 seconds.

Then Brenda was immediately put on hold – despite her pleas.

Another 26 seconds passed before a second dispatcher put down his coffee and picked up the phone.

You can hear the torment and frustration in Brenda's incredulous voice as she speaks her final words about 30 seconds later.

While that phone was ringing six times, there were 10 people on duty capable of answering it. They all failed to do so. Their water-cooler chit-chat or their Internet surfing was more important to them.

None of the dispatchers or their bosses were fired. That's the way government protects its own. This is the reason people love government jobs. Government employees are really the only ones protected by government.

This horror story is a metaphor for dependency on government – whether it is for your medical care, whether it is for your family's safety or whether it is for the way you renew your driver's license.

The reason no one was seriously disciplined in the emergency center is that this kind of service is not unusual – not in Doylestown or anywhere else across America, especially in major urban centers. You've probably experienced something similar – hopefully while in less dire circumstances than Brenda Orr.

Dependency on government is the opposite of freedom and responsibility. In the long term, it means tyranny and slavery. It inevitably slides into massive death tolls, as it did under Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, et al.

I didn't know Brenda Orr. But I hope and pray her death is not in vain. I don't just mean that the people of Doylestown, Penn., will get better emergency service in the future. I mean I hope her story wakes up Americans to the reality of what dependency on government really means.

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Dependency breeds
suffering and death
Exclusive: Joseph Farah cringes at horror story
resulting from rampant reliance on government

Posted: February 19, 2008
1:00 am Eastern



By Joseph Farah


There's a bold new political and cultural push on in America to make everyone dependent on government.

You don't need guns to defend yourself and your family, just call 911.
You don't need to prepare for disasters, just call 911.

You don't need to worry about paying for health care yourself, just call 911.
There isn't anything government can't do for you.

That's what we're being told.

We're all going to live in brand new utopian world, according to the swirling rhetoric of Barack Obama and the shrill demands of Hillary Clinton. We'll just tax the rich, then the rest of us will be on Easy Street. All our basic needs will be met. We'll live in a just and fair society.

It's amazing so many people actually believe this stuff – especially after social experiments like this have failed miserably over the last century – resulting in massive suffering and deaths numbered in the hundreds of millions.

But believe they do.

I'm not sure there's any way to reason with people who are intellectually dysfunctional – whose own greed and envy motivate them to resemble the French revolutionaries far more than our own American revolutionaries.
Having said that, let's try a little shock treatment.

While you read the rest of this column, please listen to this audio of a 911 call placed by Brenda Orr of Doylestown, Penn., last month when the multiple sclerosis victim's bed became engulfed in fire.

Remember, Brenda didn't have a choice about relying on government. You still do.

Panicked by the flames, she did what Americans have become conditioned to do in any emergency – call 911.

Even though 10 dispatchers and four supervisors were on duty and no other calls were coming into the emergency center, a county government operation, no one answered the call for 28 seconds.

Then Brenda was immediately put on hold – despite her pleas.

Another 26 seconds passed before a second dispatcher put down his coffee and picked up the phone.

You can hear the torment and frustration in Brenda's incredulous voice as she speaks her final words about 30 seconds later.

While that phone was ringing six times, there were 10 people on duty capable of answering it. They all failed to do so. Their water-cooler chit-chat or their Internet surfing was more important to them.

None of the dispatchers or their bosses were fired. That's the way government protects its own. This is the reason people love government jobs. Government employees are really the only ones protected by government.

This horror story is a metaphor for dependency on government – whether it is for your medical care, whether it is for your family's safety or whether it is for the way you renew your driver's license.

The reason no one was seriously disciplined in the emergency center is that this kind of service is not unusual – not in Doylestown or anywhere else across America, especially in major urban centers. You've probably experienced something similar – hopefully while in less dire circumstances than Brenda Orr.

Dependency on government is the opposite of freedom and responsibility. In the long term, it means tyranny and slavery. It inevitably slides into massive death tolls, as it did under Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, et al.

I didn't know Brenda Orr. But I hope and pray her death is not in vain. I don't just mean that the people of Doylestown, Penn., will get better emergency service in the future. I mean I hope her story wakes up Americans to the reality of what dependency on government really means.
Jesus, the trash you hang out with, for shame. Do you even have one ounce of humanity? BTW, you ever call a credit card customer service rep. I'll guarantee you'll wait longer than 28 seconds, the corporations you so adore are not any better at serving those that aren't trying to buy something, and even then they'll put you on hold.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:13 AM
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Jesus, the trash you hang out with, for shame. Do you even have one ounce of humanity? BTW, you ever call a credit card customer service rep. I'll guarantee you'll wait longer than 28 seconds, the corporations you so adore are not any better at serving those that aren't trying to buy something, and even then they'll put you on hold.
the article says there were no other calls. those government slobs were probably playing solitaire or typing a post on a website like this.




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Old 02-21-2008, 11:34 AM
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the article says there were no other calls. those government slobs were probably playing solitaire or typing a post on a website like this.




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Jesus, the trash you hang out with, for shame. Do you even have one ounce of humanity? BTW, you ever call a credit card customer service rep. I'll guarantee you'll wait longer than 28 seconds, the corporations you so adore are not any better at serving those that aren't trying to buy something, and even then they'll put you on hold.




Great article Vi,

LOL!!!! Leave to our illustrious med to compare a Governmental entity which is funded by tax dollars to a credit card company's customer service department.
That is quite a stretch even for med!!!
The primary reason for 911s existence is to respond to emergencies which threaten life and limb.
Med have you ever had a life threatening credit card emergency?????
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:51 AM
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Great article Vi,

LOL!!!! Leave to our illustrious med to compare a Governmental entity which is funded by tax dollars to a credit card company's customer service department.
That is quite a stretch even for med!!!
The primary reason for 911s existence is to respond to emergencies which threaten life and limb.
Med have you ever had a life threatening credit card emergency?????
Holy Macaroni!!!
I think his point was that in the end, even 911 is a bunch of people answering phones, and there is bound to be mistakes. Let's hear some stories of the thousands of people who had their lives saved by 911 calls last night.
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I agree with you ViRed, the UK is the same, I see the corruption in our government and the way they cover up for each other, they(UK gov.) seem to think that every single problem that arises can be solved by raising taxes, my wife and I work hard to keep up with the constant demands for more and more money for one thing or another giving most families no chance to accumulate any kinda savings rather just living hand to mouth. keeping everyone in debt. seems to be their goal.
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Great article Vi,

LOL!!!! Leave to our illustrious med to compare a Governmental entity which is funded by tax dollars to a credit card company's customer service department.
That is quite a stretch even for med!!!
The primary reason for 911s existence is to respond to emergencies which threaten life and limb.
Med have you ever had a life threatening credit card emergency?????
Holy Macaroni!!!
It's a fair comparison. No I've yet to have one, came close in 86, thought my card had had a heart attack, no more credit. What happened in the above article is inexcusable. But one person does not the government make. I agree that 911 operators should be extremely vigil as there are life threatening emergencies, but you are trying to make it out to be the whole government that is that irresponsible, sorry charlie, not biting.
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Vi, your saying this all for not, but it will be a democrat that wins the national election.... I'll drop $1,000 on it.... Put your money where your mouth is Vi.
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there are some folks here who seem to be missing the point entirely. THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT YOUR SAVIOR!!! depending on government agencies to feed the poor, to heal the sick and to defend you in times of need is to give up your independence and lay aside any semblance of personal responsibility. this is not a matter of republican versus democrat or conservative versus liberal, it is the nature of bureaucracy to be inefficient and indifferent.
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