trayvan martin

Originally Posted by tryingtogrow89

No he doesnt have to ask shit, maybe was a little paranoid as well because of recent break-ins in the area.
But he did not break the law or anything of the sort and in all honesty was the first line of defense against another B & E, because he is the neighborhood watch captain, so technically he is a watcher and had every right to do what he did and i back him for that. He would be a fucking local hero right now had he caught trayvon attempting a B & E.
So Zimm did nothing wrong.
Why do you think there is neighborhood watch? cops arent always around especially in a crime ridden florida.

zimm did break the law by stalking an innocent kid.

and you said it, he's supposed to be a watcher, not a "chase you around several times and follow you home-er". residents of the complex often complained about zimm following them home.

fucking creep.

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

nice bigotry there. more of this "martin is guilty" crapola. he was guilty of what? walking around with a hood on while it was raining. and running away from a creep who was following. zimm looks like a lot like a pederast for what it's worth.

hoodies in the rain: super suspicious!

fact is that zimm had several chances to ask martin where he was going, what he was doing, and identifying himself as neighborhood watch captain. he did none of those things despite ample opportunity. if he would have just done that, martin would be alive today.

"ultimately avoidable by zimmerman"

Where is the law that states you must ask your questions at the first possible moment?

Originally Posted by MuyLocoNC

Every person in this country has the authority and right to ask another person a question. And every person also has a right to tell them to pound sand, but you don't have the right to attack them for the question.

except zimm did not ask martin a thing given several opportunities to do so.

instead, he stalked the innocent kid and chased him around.

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

zimm did break the law by stalking an innocent kid.

and you said it, he's supposed to be a watcher, not a "chase you around several times and follow you home-er". residents of the complex often complained about zimm following them home.

fucking creep.

In order to watch someone you need to keep them in sight, it might mean you have to change where you are in order to do that. But ultimately what law is codified that makes watching someone a crime? Its gonna be really hard to convict someone who hasn't broken any laws.

Originally Posted by doc111

A lot of people were referring to Trayvon as a "kid". I simply pointed out that 17 is not really a "kid". Maturity aside, at 17, a person is within a year of being able to die for their country, vote for president, give consent, be married without parental consent, etc. He was a minor, or a young man. Hardly what I would consider a "kid".

17 years old is a kid, not an adult. sorry to ust up your "martin is guilty of....something" line of reasoning.

martin was an innocent kid walking home from the store who was stalked and chased and shot dead by a mentally unbalanced man.

Originally Posted by Red1966

His girlfriend told him to run away, he said he wasn't going to run. Yet you guys keep describing the thing as Zimmerman "chasing" Martin. Following is not chasing.

zimmerman says he ran. witnesses describe a chase.

go cry in your corn flakes.

Originally Posted by Illegal Smile

Best post in over 700 pages.

gee, ya suppose is zimm had actually done that and asked martin a question, instead of stalking him and chasing him, things would have turned out different?



hence, "ultimately avoidable by zimmerman".

Originally Posted by Red1966

Unfounded? Zimmerman had injuries. He had one opportunity, at which point he did ask. And was allegedly attacked.

you said martin attacked zimmerman, which is unfounded. you might as well assert that zimmerman attacked martin. makes more sense that it happened that way as martin was fleeing and zimm was the aggressor.

he had three opportunities: the initial contact, when martin drew his suspicion to call dispatch. he did not ask anything then.

the second contact, when martin wandered up to zimm's truck, parked directly in martin's path home.

and finally, after chasing him down, he aggressively and dominantly asked him on the final contact. "dominant" is how witnesses described zimm's voice.