trayvan martin

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

you never denied any of the very detailed kiddy diddling charges i made at you tonight.

you have the intellect of a biker. my trolling for tonight is over. have fun with bricktop later tonight.

LOL!

winning . .

Originally Posted by UncleBuck

you never denied any of the very detailed kiddy diddling charges i made at you tonight.

you have the intellect of a biker. my trolling for tonight is over. have fun with bricktop later tonight.

LOL!

You have fun in check in the next time you are locked up Uncle Pervy.

Wth did I just wander into

Originally Posted by NoDrama

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over"

You were commanded once already to not post this drivel.

How about you show me any fact that puts my mind into your prospective, wait I know how. But I can't get my head up my associate that far.

**edit** who the hell commanded me to do anything I am not yours or anyone's property. That in and of itself show you have a slave master racist mentality. With that being noted I shall now add you to ignore. Goodbye Dumbass (in my Red Forman voice)

Originally Posted by budleydoright

While we don't have all of the evidence there are facts that have been established.

Martin is dead.

Zimmerman Shot him and has been charged.

Really the dispute is Who was standing their ground.

The way it appears to me is Martin was standing his ground against an unknown pursuer and was shot as a result. Of course this is my opinion based on what's out there.

You know one thing I think people are forgetting, Trayvon Martin was completely innocent, he was minding his own buisiness, probably trying to line up some trim on the phone. Zimmerman had absolutely no right to pursue him. He was not acting on behalf of the neighborhood association. Martin had no obligation to explain himself to Zimmerman, or did Zimmerman have the right to follow him, question him or attempt to detain him. Of course this would be true even if he was in the commision of a crime.

Perhaps his pistol made him feel invinsable and he was thinking "C'mon punk, Make My Day." Oh wait that's the Colorado law!

How do you, or anybody else for that matter, know that Trayvon was "innocent"? How do we know he wasn't casing the place for easy houses to burglarize later on? Whether or not Zimmerman was "on duty" or not really doesn't make a difference. Maybe the guy was just a nosy cop wannabe, or maybe he's just a concerned citizen and resident. Not a single person here knew Trayvon or Zimmerman, yet we have both sides trying to ASSume what the mindset of either party is! It's ridiculous!



Many years ago, I lived in the city. We had a string of burlaries that went on for nearly 2 years in my neighborhood. We weren't sure if it was the same person/persons but it got people's attention and before long there were MANY neighborhood watch groups. Police don't prevent crimes and a meeting was held with the local precinct to discuss our options. The number 1 thing we were instructed to do by the police was to start a neighborhood watch. The funny thing about neighborhood watches is that people take turns volunteering patrols in certain areas, but when a person is "off duty" they don't stop being "concerned citizens". IOW, if I see someone wearing dark clothes running in between houses, I'm probably going to do something about it. I realize that Trayvon was probably NOT a burglar, but Zimmerman had NO way to know this until after the fact. I'm sure Zimmerman was sick of "these punks always getting away"! I would be sick of it too.

Originally Posted by budleydoright

Zimmerman had absolutely no right to pursue him. He was not acting on behalf of the neighborhood association. Martin had no obligation to explain himself to Zimmerman, or did Zimmerman have the right to follow him, question him or attempt to detain him.

Zimmerman did have a right to pursue Martin, to what end is key to the legality. Could he not pursue him if he was trying to return a wallet he saw him drop? Pursuit in and of itself is NOT illegal. You guys need to drop this argument, it falls flat on it's face and that's exactly why he wasn't charged with any other misdemeanors or felonies.

Zimmerman absolutely has a right to ask Martin a question, verbal exchange is not illegal in almost any scenario. Are you saying he isn't allowed to ask him where he got that sweet hoodie?

You are correct in that Martin had every right to tell him to fuck off. You are also correct on Zimmerman having no right to detain him, but that is just the wild conjecture of a few posters on this thread, there is ZERO evidence that documents Zimmerman trying to detain Martin, so far. That could change, obviously.

Originally Posted by doc111

How do you, or anybody else for that matter, know that Trayvon was "innocent"? How do we know he wasn't casing the place for easy houses to burglarize later on?

wow unfuckingbelievable..Trayvon did doing nothing that night but go to the store and people type this type of shit. Yup thats why I stay the way I am and teach my kids to do the same.

Originally Posted by MuyLocoNC

Zimmerman did have a right to pursue Martin, to what end is key to the legality. Could he not pursue him if he was trying to return a wallet he saw him drop? Pursuit in and of itself is NOT illegal. You guys need to drop this argument, it falls flat on it's face and that's exactly why he wasn't charged with any other misdemeanors or felonies.

Zimmerman absolutely has a right to ask Martin a question, verbal exchange is not illegal in almost any scenario. Are you saying he isn't allowed to ask him where he got that sweet hoodie?

You are correct in that Martin had every right to tell him to fuck off. You are also correct on Zimmerman having no right to detain him, but that is just the wild conjecture of a few posters on this thread, there is ZERO evidence that documents Zimmerman trying to detain Martin, so far. That could change, obviously.

again Zimmerman's only duty as a civilian was to call 911. He did and ignored their advice and still followed Trayvon which resulted in a death. The only person at fault here is Zimmerman. If not for the media starting this as a race issue everyone I feel would be saying the same thing, but some people now feel they have to defend BULLSHIT do the fact race was injected and the tension that is brewing in this country of ours ever since Barrack Obama was elected. Fuckin sad