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    "pulchritudinous"?? cn
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    "if zimmerman was getting beat so bad, there would be evidence of it. as it is, there is no evidence that zimmerman was assaulted at all. none."

    Read the police report. Read the account of the eye witness. UB, you are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to you own facts. Zimmer walks under 776.041 2a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert dude View Post
    According to the police report...
    yes, the police report. which we know is of course the acme and pinnacle of all honesty.

    keep citing the report from a corrupt and crooked police force with a history of racial injustice. genius.

    Quote Originally Posted by desert dude View Post
    ...Zimmer was bleeding from nose and head and the back of his shirt was wet.
    there is zero evidence of this. got a photo of that bloody nose? got a photo of that wet shirt? no? then it never happened.

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    The eye witness account was that Trayvon was on top of Zimmer beating him...
    an anonymous "witness" who was contradicted by other accounts which the police felt the need to "correct".

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    consistent with the police report.
    suddenly, people on a pot website are defending what's on police reports. what a world.

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    I don't know if Zimmer tried to escape but if he did he was not successful because he wound up on the ground under Trayvon.
    unfounded.

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    The law say nothing about a bloody nose, it only says, "...the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm..."
    that is not the only thing the law says, genius. that has to be paired with and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant

    zimmerman had 360 degrees of escape options available to him. the important part is the AND, it means BOTH must be true. neither was true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desert dude View Post
    Yeah, let's see you argue that one in court in front of a jury. Pure speculation on your part and it would not be admissible.
    what? speculation?

    it is fact that they did not collect any evidence of any "wet shirt" or "bloody nose".

    until you can show me evidence of said things, YOU are the one speculating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    you accuse others of jumping to conclusions, yet talk like it's a certainty that this was the case.

    if zimmerman was getting beat so bad, there would be evidence of it. as it is, there is no evidence that zimmerman was assaulted at all. none.

    not to mention, he has 100 pounds on the kid and had 360 degrees of open space around him to run away, if you believe this unfounded and ludicrous tale that this kid turned into the incredible hulk.
    Ya no evidence besides the witness "john" saying he seen zimmermen getting beat.
    The injuries on his head and nose would backup "johns" story.
    The injuries of which were documented by police and also Fire department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert dude View Post
    "Funny how Zimmerman was on his back when he shot Trayvon in the chest. Zimmerman was supposed to be directly underneath him. Why wasn't he covered in Trayvon's blood? The chest? Where the heart is? No blood? "

    The problem with that line of thinking is the eye witness account of Trayvon on top of Zimmer and beating him. That eye witness account corroborates Zimmer's claim that he was being beaten.
    eyewitness accounts are unreliable in a court of law. the account means jack shit, especially since the cops were "correcting" other accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    yes, the police report. which we know is of course the acme and pinnacle of all honesty.

    keep citing the report from a corrupt and crooked police force with a history of racial injustice. genius.



    there is zero evidence of this. got a photo of that bloody nose? got a photo of that wet shirt? no? then it never happened.



    an anonymous "witness" who was contradicted by other accounts which the police felt the need to "correct".



    suddenly, people on a pot website are defending what's on police reports. what a world.



    unfounded.



    that is not the only thing the law says, genius. that has to be paired with and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant

    zimmerman had 360 degrees of escape options available to him. the important part is the AND, it means BOTH must be true. neither was true.
    Poor UB. On the losing side of yet another argument, shouting unfounded assertions that are contradicted by the police report and an eye witness. Zimmer walks. What he did was remarkably dumb, but legal under the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert dude View Post
    "if zimmerman was getting beat so bad, there would be evidence of it. as it is, there is no evidence that zimmerman was assaulted at all. none."

    Read the police report. Read the account of the eye witness. UB, you are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to you own facts. Zimmer walks under 776.041 2a.
    lol, now stoners are defending police reports. the police report doesn't mean shit when they coached other people into making the statements they wanted.

    eyewitness accounts are all but meaningless in a court of law.

    no pictures or any evidence whatsoever of any injuries, no assault ever happened. period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck View Post
    eyewitness accounts are unreliable in a court of law. the account means jack shit, especially since the cops were "correcting" other accounts.
    I agree that eye witness are unreliable, even notoriously so, but they are admissible as evidence. In this case the eye witness account is corroborated by the observations of the responding policeman and documented in the policeman's written report. Zimmer walks.

    GAME SET MATCH... unless some other actual evidence emerges.

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    clearly you have no idea the legal definition of "stalking".
    and clearly this has never happened to you or anyone you love.

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