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    Quote Originally Posted by afrawfraw View Post
    Oh, let's have some fun. So in 2005 he was fired for completely losing it. Your reasoning is lack of training. He is approved in 2008 and begins LEO training. FOUR YEARS LATER, he disregards protocals, disregards a direct order not to engage, disregards orders to remain in his vehicle, and pursues TM further.

    Now either 1) He was in control of his anger, due to Anger Management classes, and LEO training, and started the scuffle on purpose.

    Or 2) He learned nothing from LEO training and AM Classes and lost his cool and started a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afrawfraw View Post
    Here we go again...Law,law,law.

    So we can conclude that OJ is innocent, and Michael Jackson was innocent. (All 3 times)

    I'm not speculating on the outcome of the trial. I'm saying use rational thought. It's dark and raining. You see a shadowed figure lurking about. You say, "Hey." He runs off. You call the police. He ducks into a dark alley. IF YOU CONTINUE YOUR PURSUIT, WHY!? Back up is on route. If this guy breaks in somewhere, he'll be in custody in minutes. If he's leaving the park, he's leaving. WHY PURSUE? Because your emotional. Period.
    Agreed, but we are ONLY discussing the legality of the actions that were taken, to my knowledge no one is saying Zimmerman acted intelligently or that he couldn't have handled the situation better. But that discussion is pointless as Trayvon is dead and the "law, law, law" is what this thread is entirely about.
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    "They always get away"

    Sounds like a true Vulcan. Rational. Factual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuyLocoNC View Post
    He was never ordered not to engage.
    He was never ordered to remain in his vehicle.

    Let's have some fun, since you continue to make statements that are untrue, you're either a pathological liar OR a complete idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afrawfraw View Post
    So the 911 transcripts are a conspiracy now!? Oh, brother. *Facepalm*
    Where the fuck do you get this shit? lmfao!!!!!! You DO realize how all these ASSumptions are making you look right now?

    I'll explain (again); Edited transcripts often don't give the entire picture. This has already happened in the media where an edited 911 transcript made it look like Zimmerman was racially profiling when after hearing the exerpt in its entirety we see that he was simply responding to the dispatchers questioning about a description. Never did I mention conspiracy. I simply am not going to listen to a snippet of a 911 tape and make a judgement as to the innocence or guilt of Zimmerman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afrawfraw View Post
    Here we go again...Law,law,law.
    I hate it when the law gets in the way of someone making an irrational arguement!
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    Even with all of you against me, you still can't explain Zimmermans MOTIVE for persuing TM.

    It's legal to do a lot of things.

    Zimmermans lawyers will have to prove that he tried to avoid conflict. How are you avoiding conflict by following someone? I don't think stand your ground will help Zimmy here.

    He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony;

    He approached a law abiding citizen, ran after them when they fled, made them feel threatened, and then shot them when they tried to defend themselves.

    REMEMBER, Zimms not a cop. If he had been an on duty LEO, my position would be different.
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    Then again, this is Florida. Perhaps he'll walk. Perhaps the people of Florida condone this type of action. Pull that shit in my state, and Zimmy would be the one dead for running after strangers in the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afrawfraw View Post
    Even with all of you against me, you still can't explain Zimmermans MOTIVE for persuing TM.

    It's legal to do a lot of things.

    Zimmermans lawyers will have to prove that he tried to avoid conflict. How are you avoiding conflict by following someone? I don't think stand your ground will help Zimmy here.

    He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony;

    He approached a law abiding citizen, ran after them when they fled, made them feel threatened, and then shot them when they tried to defend themselves.

    REMEMBER, Zimms not a cop. If he had been an on duty LEO, my position would be different.
    He says right in the 911 tape that he lost trayvon.How exactly is he pursuing him?

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