damn it was me.

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no it was me too.. im just too high to admit it. LOL

it is a good book and like andy worhahl asked congress that all americans should be blessed with acid LSD at least once in their live, likewise all people should be required to read it and study the beast we haveall created in government agencies with limitless powerand no defined rules of engagement.

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"All stupid people should be shot in the head. Thin the heard people its called nature" -adam corolla

http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...xperiment.html

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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.

So, for those who've read Orwell's 1984 ... do you remember how it ends? Lest you've forgotten ... "A Boot In The Face FOREVER!"

Its all about the power guyz ... all about the power.

I think the solution can be found in several areas. First, vote for the presidential candidates who will appoint constitutionalist judges to the federal courts. Second, is for Americans to call for the abolition of the Welfare State. Third, would be for every American to take voting and jury duty seriously. Fourth, we need to wake up to the fact that a federal government powerful enough to give you everything, is also powerful enough to take everything away.

Vi

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i must seriously say thank you for your utterly beautiful rendition of my internal monologue (of which iccan never seem to express clearlyh) <--see

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"All stupid people should be shot in the head. Thin the heard people its called nature" -adam corolla

http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...xperiment.html

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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.

I agree to a certain degree. The Americans who DO take voting seriously are those who vote. The problem is the power of manipulation every governing body has. Take the Bush Administration. Before he came to power he bombarded the red states with utter bullshit which told them that it is each individuals christian right to vote republican, and demonised the democrats as the devil. The fact the people believed this is amazing. Fair enough, everyone has the right to make up their own mind, but this particular administration is abusing the fact that influences make up people's minds.

In relation to your comment about the fact the government is able to give and therefore take everything away, this is completely true. Look what they have taken away from you. Thousands upon thousands of American soldiers who believed that no matter what they were fighting for, it was right. The families who have to suffer their unnecessary deaths. Its compelte exploitation of power and goes to show that no government works in the interest of the people, but in the interest of itself. Who says any government should have the power to give us everything? If this is true it is there duty, and therefore the option of them taking everything away isn't justified. We, as individuals, deserve the right to do this, not one man. The idea of having a government there is to protect the people. Do you think the current war is to protect the people? No of course it isn't. It's striving to protect what little reputation Bush has left, to gain more money and control and to show the weaker states that America is not to be messed with. Bush was recently denied the sending in of more troops thankfully, because congress is now sensible, and not sheep. Does this not tell you something? It tells me Bush doesn't care about what the people think, because the people think it's wrong to send more in. Yet he wants to. What kind of government doesn't listen to the people it is dealing with? The people whos lives are going to be taken away for it's own good?

Appointing constitutional judges to the federal courts will make little difference unless they are reletively liberal. Look at the supreme court. Unfortunatly the belief of the individual judges what the constitution means. As far as I'm concerned this is one of the smallest things America has to worry about. What it needs to worry about is gaining a reasonable reputation back, if they ever had one. It's a barbaric country at the moment, and that's going to be hard to change.

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Do you think the current war is to protect the people? No of course it isn't. It's striving to protect what little reputation Bush has left, to gain more money and control and to show the weaker states that America is not to be messed with. Bush was recently denied the sending in of more troops thankfully, because congress is now sensible, and not sheep. Does this not tell you something? It tells me Bush doesn't care about what the people think, because the people think it's wrong to send more in. Yet he wants to. What kind of government doesn't listen to the people it is dealing with? The people whos lives are going to be taken away for it's own good?

Very well stated, in fact your whole post made perfect sense. I wonder if we are the only two people to see it this way. I take it you're from another country. People in this country, America, are too brainwashed to see the situation from this prospective. There is this sense of patriotism that is unfounded by the behavior of the government. In my estimation, a true patriot would want to get rid of the current regime as fast as they could.

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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.

"In my estimation, a true patriot would want to get rid of the current regime as fast as they could."

You're talking about removing power in one breath and in the other breath you are talking about increasing that power through the manipulation of the welfare state. The two don't mix. Sorry that you continue to not see this picture.

Vi

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[quote=ViRedd;42229]"In my estimation, a true patriot would want to get rid of the current regime as fast as they could."

You're talking about removing power in one breath and in the other breath you are talking about increasing that power through the manipulation of the welfare state. The two don't mix. Sorry that you continue to not see this picture.

Vi[/quote]"The beat of a different drummer" comes to mind.

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"I suppose I always knew America would eventually break the planet, like some ghastly, hyperactive toddler that gets hold of a mobile phone and then smashes it repeatedly against the edge of a table". Quote from british journalist.