
01-26-2007, 08:58 AM
|  | forest ranger Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: northern california
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| | they tried to raid a club in San Fransisco a couple months back. the patients blocked the entrance to the club. the dea left. went to the owners house instead. found a little cash and personal stash. the patients blocked the door.....
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01-26-2007, 09:10 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North of mexico and south of Canada
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| | its a beuracratic placebo to push for the elections and such just like falling gas prices. Too True only in reverse. That raid is exactly why me and a couple a hundred thousand nevadans have not applied for the medical marijuana paperwork from the state. Once you're in the system, the Feds know where you live and what you do (Grow Marijuana) Illegal as hell federally. I'd rather take my chances and plead my case if busted. There is a law that you can plead your case if you can get a Dr. to say it would help your condition. Although there are certainly many people who need and benefit from medical Marijuana, I believe the system is abused and some people are getting rich from the law. I don't know how much they charge, but in the raids, they usually confiscate large amounts of cash. I think you can see the possibilities of a cash heavy business where the Government doesn't collect one thin dime, It surely pisses them off, How dare we!
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01-26-2007, 09:18 AM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: home of beaches and bridges
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| | FREE ENTERPRISE!!!!! no fed involvment justifies no reason for federal tax either. only state should collect and RD medical uses and blah blah | 
01-26-2007, 09:53 AM
|  | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: dixie
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| | the state shouldn't collect anything dank, unless they charge a small fee for printing out whatever paperwork there is.
i too don't understand why anyone would want to involve the state gvnmnt because it is subject to fed law. in mogies state they have done it right; it's free and they give you THC containing materials, incriminating the state itself under fed law. that takes some real state rights believers!! | 
01-26-2007, 09:55 AM
|  | forest ranger Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: northern california
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| | i do everything i can to register. dr., every club in town, county card, state card. i WANT to be counted. i WANT to be known. i WANT them to realize how many of us there are. if we each went and registered the #'s would open some eyes. let them arrest me and the other 5000 patients in my county. where you gonna put us? they blocked the door. the DEA left. scared of a whole nother waco.
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01-26-2007, 10:05 AM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: home of beaches and bridges
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| |  i would be happy to pay a reasonable tax if the state had all the pwer to protect my rights, but apperently you have to pay the mob and the cartel to stand on this street corner.
problably why state doesnt rape us with more of that tax they cant collect if they cant protect, beuracratic extortion becomes a discouraging hustle.
and faded i among other work in their buildings and offices and drawers. the last thing i want is to be on one of their lists.  | 
01-26-2007, 12:20 PM
| | Able To Roll A Joint Able to roll a joint | | Join Date: Dec 2006
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| | It's 1984. Let's face it. Cut the analysing, this is the beginning of the thought police. These are the preliminary stages. Call me a CRAZY liberal but it's there. An individual is not allowed to deny someone a service because of their religion, colour or background (or habits). However fair this seems, an individual should be allowed to make up their own minds on who they want to serve. The motives are irrelevant. What we live in nowadays, especially in the US, is a less extreme version of 1984. Effectively the thought police exist, we are told what to believe, we are told what to do, we are told what is right, what is wrong etc. This is insane. Actions should be punished; not emotional reactions. A vast majority of marijuana smokers, be it legal or illegal are perfectly harmless, yet we are being demonised as drug addicts, people who deserve no place in their particular societies. Granted America is extreme compared to many developed countries. I agree heavily with fdd2blk. I believe if we rebel as a society, no matter where we live, we will overpower any government. In fact it isn't a belief, its fact.
I do not endorse racism, sectarianism or sexism or any of the like; but i will always believe a person is allowed to do what they want as long as it affects noone else emotionally or physically (and ignorance is bliss in many of these circumstances).
If noone payed taxes, what exactly could the government do? Nothing. If everyone smoked weed in public, what could the government do? Nothing. Ok a State of Emergency would be declared, but that accomplishes nothing. The power of the government is very, very limited in this way. They manipulate the population to believe what they believe, to make their job easier and to shut us up. That is why the threat of the police is on us; to scare us, and nothing more. Do you really think every single murder is solved and brought to justice? Of course not!
In the UK marijuana was decreased to a class "C" drug, implying if caught in possesion (an amount which is judged to be used for soley individual use) only a caution would be given, no permenant record, nothing. However in the UK we also have close to true freedom of speech, we are allowed to visit what websites we want when we want, we aren't slaughtered for insulting our government, but quite the opposite. Holding to account the Executive is a heavy part of our government. EVERY WEEK the Prime Minister is faced with a half hour session dealing with anything any opposing party want to ask, ok there is a level of bureaucracyto be passed but that is irrelevant. The reason why freedom exists in the UK is because of this. The government is actually held to account. When Bush speaks in front of the public he reads a speech and answers questions thrown at him by members of his own party (nonetheless he still fucks up).
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01-26-2007, 01:23 PM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: home of beaches and bridges
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| | jesus i was thinkin abaout he whole big brother thing and fukin a girl that doesnt know me in the park.
to many parralels. | 
01-26-2007, 01:34 PM
|  | forest ranger Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: northern california
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by dankciti jesus i was thinkin abaout he whole big brother thing and fukin a girl that doesnt know me in the park.
to many parralels. |
dude YOU are way smoked out. what are you talking about. or is it me? 
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01-26-2007, 01:40 PM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: home of beaches and bridges
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by fdd2blk dude YOU are way smoked out. what are you talking about. or is it me?  |
dude in orwels 1984 the protagonist has a lover/ gf whom he take on some long ass ride out into the country to have secret picnics with thinking big bro's thought police would't detect them and in the end she gets brainwashed and he ends up alone in the new world | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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