Originally Posted by TreesOfLife

Originally Posted by ImTheDude

I wont speak as unintelligable and unclear in a way that even the most intelligent people can't follow me.

Originally Posted by wyteboi

Just want to thank you Reb for all your EXCELLENT finds!!! with your help (and your finds) i have convinced a few more people. thats better than none!

Originally Posted by TreesOfLife

Originally Posted by what... huh?

Does that look like damage to you? This is what happens when small steel buildings catch on fire. By the way... was building 5 hit by a plane? No. Did building 5 catch fire? Yes. Did it collapse? No.




A bank. Wonder what made that gouge in it. I don't see a corner of wtc 1 on the ground there. Was the gouge an inside job thing too? Did they build something elaborate to make people believe that the building which just fell did damage to the ones around it?


What is the point of demolishing 7? They pulled 6. They let 5 burn. CREWS of firemen saw that building 7 was sagging, a sign of impending collapse, and were ordered to stop trying to put it out because so many had already died.

I have to know going in, if you are going to say that the firemen in the NIST report on record, are part of the plot which murdered their brethren. That will help me figure out where to start.



Molten metal pouring out of wtc 2



South face before



SW corner after


Fires visible on the opposite side of the building across several floors.


Evidence of everything that I claimed.

Any idea how much copper is on a given floor of wtc 1 or 2? Electrical wiring, phone lines, cat5... how about aluminum? Light enclosures, cubicle structures, computer cases, duct work... a lot of soft melty metals in a single floor...



jet fuel melts stuff. This didn't even slam into a building at 500+.


That is enough for now.

Originally Posted by Keenly

if you still think "terrorists" blew up the wtc


maybe you should be first in line for your swine flu "vaccine"

Originally Posted by mexiblunt

I've probably posted this before but sprword.com is a great free documentary site that has a bunch of 911 related docs. I count at least 20 of em, most are 1.5 to 2 hours long. I'm sure alot of pieces have been posted in this thread but there is alot there for anyone who wants to see it!

Thanks again grow!!!!!

Originally Posted by NoDrama

This is what I love about WH, he posts things that only make our argument stronger, for example the pic of the fires in WTC Building 7, those fires are pathetic I make bigger flames when I go camping, its impossible for those little fires to make the whole building collapse in an instant.

Originally Posted by NoDrama

There is no way you actually believe that they caused it to collapse, and If you truly do believe that, well you lose ALL credibility with me.

Originally Posted by NoDrama

Nothing in that building melted, maybe someplastic, but those fires aren't even 1% of the fires it would take to melt copper, I can't believbe you even said that the wires and stuff in the building would have ANYTHING to do with it, LMAO you have any idea how many miles of copper wire it takes to cause that much metal to pour out?

Originally Posted by NoDrama

You have no Clue WH, keep trying, but you only dig your hole deeper and deeper and everyone else is around the edge asking if you need a hand getting out, but you continue to dig.

Originally Posted by NoDrama

Fires do not cause steel skyscrapers to fall, period. You need demolition to do it, there is no other way short of full out military bombing or nuclear attack and I sure as fuck didn't see anythign like that.

Originally Posted by NoDrama

In fact the military was completely absent on the day the worst attack on US soil ever took place.

Originally Posted by NoDrama

You have no power here troll, go back to your bridge!

Originally Posted by ImTheDude

I wont speak as unintelligable and unclear in a way that even the most intelligent people can't follow me.

Originally Posted by what... huh?

That is the other side of the building... the fire which burned for 7 hours across a dozen floors.

The joints on the web trusses were the weak link... as I demonstrated a million pages ago.




LOL... so before today, you would have called on me as a credible reference? Somehow I don't feel as though I have lost much.



Well first... it wasn't that much. I am curious how many miles of whatever you think it was it takes to pour that much out. I don't think you understand how big phone trunk lines are in a building that size. The plane itself, copper, misc aluminum, plastic and everything else in those offices made a lava like flow of shit. What is your theory? That a couple of the "precision" (snicker) thermite bombs went off 7 minutes early, and the rest went in perfect and immediate floor by floor order? Remember, demolished from the top down, unlike any other demo... that means floor by floor. Just those went off 7 minutes early.

I am also curious if you have any idea what temperature a bank of industrial uninterruptible power supplies will burn at? Wanna hazard a guess as to how many banks of them existed in those buildings? Yes. I'm the loon. You do not account for reactable material in scale...



Your delusions of grandeur seem to make you happy, so I will not make you acknowledge the several arguments I have won... I will simply acknowledge your two.



Fires cause huge ass steel beams to weaken and collapse under oppressive weight. This is why you continue to argue the "type of structure" strawman of the bridge example. Because you don't like accepting that fires deformed steel beams with concrete on them. Period.



20 minutes.

I really just don't think you have any idea what was on fire in that building, and cannot say what temperature it was... nor can you explain the tanker fire which reduced the tanker to a four inch slag and destroyed the bridge in 20 minutes. You know the temperatures involved. How did the steel frame of the truck melt?



I guess you forgot about the pentagon.



Now you are reduced to calling me a troll? Awesome... and it is funny that you mention power, as you seem powerless to answer a single question... which goes back how many pages now?

Originally Posted by jrh72582

Yes, write it down. The recession will be over by April of 2010. By the end of the first quarter, all will be well.