Yes... Great find ostlo. What about that guys? Please go back to thermite now and explain ctrled demo on that scale that doesn't burn in the explosion, or the hour long unfought fire. We have all seen thermite reactions.

Explain it like I am 6.

Then sing me another song. I am much more inclined to abandon reason if there are pithy lyrics and a guitar.

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Bwaa ha ha ha ... that's too funny since you lack all those requirements ...

Now right here folks ... we catch the bushwhacked minded dead in the act of making shit up ... Gage NEVER claim the WTC came down faster than gravity ... this is what he did say ...
Well we’re told that the planes hit the buildings, and there was an explosion and a fire, and about a hour and a half later, in the case of the north tower, the buildings collapsed due to structural weakening, due to the fires. The problem is that we don’t have large gradual deformations associated with collapses. And fires in high rises have never brought down a steel frame high rise building at all, ever. And what we have, unfortunately, is the evidence in the twin towers and the third skyscraper to collapse that day, ... We have the evidence of the ten key features of controlled demolition. In the case of building seven, it collapses straight down into its own footprint, at free fall speed, in the first hundred feet. It’s dropping, as you can see symmetrically, smoothly, at free fall speed, in the first hundred feet. Two and a half seconds. This is uncanny, there’s forty thousand tons of structural steel designed to resist this collapse.
Busted ... for your delusions ...

How many examples of you pulling shit out your ass will we accept before discrediting him ... none.


You're the only one that made that comment so you only discredited yourself.

The video proves what we have been saying all along ... those buildings didn't come down due to fire ... and plane impact case close.


Yep ... you've been discredited again ... nothing new here.

We all know he's not stupid.

Well as far as most of us are concerned you have yet to prove that. You really don't know ... you demonstrate that each time you post.

... the weight of the floors ... Total and complete nonsense ... that video only demonstrates that the building came down with help ... fire and plane impact is not going to cause that to happen ... no way ...

911 government official story ... complete and total lie ... again folks isn't it amazing how many people fell for the bullshit? Is it because they are blind? ... afraid to face facts? Refuse to accept that some high position elite in this country don't give a damn about him and would have no problem what so ever killing as many "peons" as they deem necessary to push their agenda? ... Drinking far too much of the government kool-aid? ... what? All of the above? What makes them oblivious to the obvious? You have to admit ... the government propagandists are very good at brainwashing the general public.

Part of your delusion ... anyone in their right mind can see that building is doing the impossible ... if you buy the government bullshit ... which most of us don't.

I could explain it like you were a two year old ... you would still disregard the facts as you have during this entire thread.

Here ya go ... only cause I like you.
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NoDrama ... this is different shot of the construction picture I was looking for ... this one is further away and not as clear as the other ... it was on the thread ...

Check it out folks ... see all that steel? These building were design to withstand what happen to them ... no way are they going to come crashing down in a few seconds in it's own foot print ... it's just impossible for it to happen the way the government claims ... if wieght of the floors cause those towers to fall then why didn't the other skyscrapers I and No have presented in this thread do the same? They can't seem to get around that ... well there delusion gets them around it ... but for the rest of us ... it don't fly ... they are willing to accept the impossible and make ridiculous statements rather that accept the facts ... or at least demand an open investigation. They simply do not want to know the truth.

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Dude those building came down cuz planes hit them, and the fires. I got a bridge that proves it, but if you link a building built just like them and it doesn't fall, well thats because its different than the building that fell. Everyone knows that skyscrapers are just bridges laid on end, sheesh i thought everyone knew that.

I watched Gage video 3 times to try and pinpoint where he says it falls faster than gravity, he doesn't, so like growrebel just accused you of, you make shit up and you do it to try and hoodwink others. Once again youve proven you are unable to regurgitate even the most basic facts.

You wanna know why they did it? well heres some of the consequences of that day of deceit.

Invasions and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan
Global "War On terror"...sounds like "war on Drugs" doomed to fail, we can't even find a guy in a cave who supoposedly did it and masterminded the greatest attack ever on american soil.
Creation of one of the largest subsectors of the Government...The Department of Homeland Security.
Civil Liberties legislation: Patriot act,military commisions act, Violent radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism prevention act.
Creation of torture policy
Executive orders creating unprecedent power of the executive branch
Continued oil Hegemony and the central banks that make slaves of the citizens

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance!.......Albert Einstein

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Hey man I really cant help some people cant/refuse to believe anything other then what "they" say. But I dont give a damn what "they" say or any other person who is not educated or has experience in high rise structures like I do! No offence but, you can look at all the videos you want, but if you dont know what your looking at it makes it difficult to see whats actually happening.

When I look at the video I see the top 10 or so floors tilt to one side and then all of a sudden everything comes down in one perfect, straight, vertical line....everything pulverized in one big heap of rubble..... right?

Okay, well there are a few things with this. One being, the top 10 floors that initially tilted upon collapse should have kept falling in the direction it was moving (inertia) NOT suddenly change directions unless it was acted upon by another force. I think I recall you stating earlier "there's no way the building could support the force of that falling top section" or something along those lines... That statement made me chuckle that's why I remember it LOL! Dude the amount of iron and concrete involved in these buildings is almost unfathomable! Its completely over kill!! COMPLETELY capable of holding up its top 10%..... Trust me I have built many of steel structures. These were a tubular frame design fixed around a central core of elevator shafts and stairs (The most structurally sound part of the building). Each floor includes a grid of 3 and 4 inch thick tubes and I-beams, this all gets bolted together using structure bolts (typically A325 but i dont expect you to know that). This then gets steel decking laid on top and welded to every support beam/tube. Then completely covered in concrete 5-6 inches thick. Probably built in sections instead of one long structure. Meanwhile the outside being completely encased in more concrete.

It is impossible for 100 floors of iron and concrete to pancake on top of each one at a time that fast!!! KERPLUNCK, KERPLUNCK, KERPLUNCK.... Thousands of bolts and welds on each floor giveaway simultaneously, concrete turns to dust all in 10 seconds.....

GET REAL!! Have you ever seen a pancaked building??? Look at the LARGE sections of each floor, still intact!




This is NOT a pancaked building...



Everything has been reduced to rubble and dust, from the 1st floor to the 110th. If those towers fell at all (with out the help of demolition) there would be SOMETHING still intact. Especially the elevator shafts on the lower floors!!



As for thermite....



Thats a pretty good 45 degree miter on that 4inch thick tube in the background there. Hmmm... I wonder why that massive pile of rumble smoldered and had a river or molten steel run like rivers through it for months after?? Remember that? Peoples boots melting despite the amount of time passed... How so? Every one saw that "so-called" fire? How does it stay hot for so long? It cant.....


Thermite is highly explosive, An uncontrolled burn can NOT cause this because it is impossible (Laws of Physics) for a dirty burn to reach temperatures this high to make molten steel and iron



Plus I highly doubt a 5 day crash coarse flight trained stone thrower would be capable of navigating a commercial airliner across many states, identify the Hudson River (from many miles high), and be capable for navigating across many more states and into NYC. Maybe you should start researching commercial airplanes and their safety features. Looked like one of those jets makes some hard embankments as impact occurs. Probably pulling 3 or 4 G's. Im pretty sure commercial airliners cant make such maneuvers even with autopilot disabled, to protect its crew and passengers. But I have no hands on experience in that field unlike I do with steel buildings.


No worries Im not trying to make you believe....just trying to open your eyes a little so you can see your being misled by false information. Apply the laws of physics and most of everything your told about 9/11 turns to a false statement.

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This is honestly the dumbest thing ive ever heard, cant wait to tell people at work LOL




NOPE but we sure can fly his entire family out of the US even though all flights had been grounded Hmmm, sure did have a good chance to get some info on his where abouts....Why didnt we? Cause he didnt do it. He even said that he had nothing to do with 9/11 in a video. Yet here people are, still blinded by hate.

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HEHE i hear that steel foundries are no longer using blast furnaces to melt their steel they now just burn desks and paperwork doused with a bit of JET A. its proven to melt steel up to 1000 feet away, the gubbermint crack spin team said so.

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Here is the "OFFICIAL" terrorist list as put forth by the good ole US Gubbermint.

While the pilots trained in the United States, Bin Ladin and al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan started selecting the muscle hijackers—those operatives who would storm the cockpit and control the passengers on the four hijacked planes. (The term “muscle” hijacker appears in the interrogation reports of 9/11 conspirators KSM and Binalshibh, and has been widely used to refer to the non-pilot hijackers.) The so-called muscle hijackers actually were not physically imposing, as the majority of them were between 5’5” and 5’7” in height and slender in build. In addition to Hazmi and Mihdhar, the first pair to enter the United States, there were 13 other muscle hijackers, all but one from Saudi Arabia. They were Satam al Suqami, Wail and Waleed al Shehri (two brothers), Abdul Aziz al Omari, Fayez Banihammad (from the UAE), Ahmed al Ghamdi, Hamza al Ghamdi, Mohand al Shehri, Saeed al Ghamdi, Ahmad al Haznawi, Ahmed al Nami, Majed Moqed, and Salem al Hazmi (the brother of Nawaf al Hazmi).

Now you would think that all 11 would be dead, after all they flew those planes into buildings that later were incinerated. Guess how many are alive? If you guessed " 7" then you are a fookin genius, cuz thats how many are alive today, the buildings blew up, the planes were destroyed, thousands of innocents were killed but 65% of the hijackers lived. Probably went into Building # 7 to find a safe spot and while there were roasting hot dogs and smores waiting for Osama to come pick them up in his Hummer Truck with spinners. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...hijackers.html

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Hey huffy, wanna know why the building doesn't look like a pancaked building? cuz the jet was going so fast that it actually caused the entire building to melt from the intense friction from the impact. I know its true cuz the same thing happens when comets and asteroids that go 25,000 mph hit stuff, its the same thing. Boeing makes FAST airliners.

Well its either that or perhaps it got blown the fuck up?

Oh and lets not forget that the impact friction also caused molecular rearrangement of aluminum, iron oxide to make thermite, that thermite then instantaneously cut hundreds of thousands of steel beams in both buildings into nice 10 foot long pieces. While were at it it also caused the image of the Baby Jesus to appear on my morning toast.

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lol.

It has nothing to do with the application, it has to do with the material.

I will take your non objection of my introduction of evidence from various sources that steel looses half its rigidity at 1000 degrees... then I really only have to deal with 3 things.

1. Can I demonstrate that this fire would very easily be well over 1000 degrees?

2. Can I somehow convince the conspirators that this...


...might have had some minor effect on the structural integrity of some parts of the buildings?

3. Can I get an answer to my next single question before I waste more time disproving things only to have them be deemed irrelevant... though somehow before they were... particularly, if memory serves... ah well, on to the rest?

As the resident demo expert, can you please explain to me two things?

1. Can you explain why thermite would not ignite in that minor damage to the facade up there? Or for that matter while on fire for 102 minutes?
2. Can you show me, written or otherwise, when thermite has been used to demolish something of any scale you find significant?
And if you want to toy with other questions...
3. What sort of quantities would we need, and my next real question will be concerning the effort in placing these precision noncombustible thermite bombs.
D. Or whatever we are on. I just realized I write like Ricky now.
and 6. Don't use this as a reason to distract from my current question about a completely unprovable answer that you get to make up... how hard is this?

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The stuff that happens with comets and such is much much hotter.. This only needed to impart about 700 degrees of temp to completey render the steel useless at a strustural component. That is in addition to the 1000 degrees plus that gas fire provided.

I am glad tho that you have finally come around to admitting that the impact of the jet and the fire caused the collapse of the building.

Hey we got two exapmles of building that will topple when hit by a jet.

Got any building collisions where a similar size jet at that similarly sized building and did not cause a building collapse?

I got two examples that say it topples after an hour or two after the collision..