my question is...if a jet hit the pentagon, how come there was not any debris on the outside? I saw the tv coverage immediately after it happened and there was the big hole in the side of the pentagon in the shape of the fuselage, but wouldn't there be wings and other shit on the ground outside?

My one point as to why 911 was not an inside job is Alex Jones. This guy is still alive. IF the government is willing to kill thousands of people durring 911 then what is this one guy who is spreading the "truth" (if you believe 911 was an inside job) to the government. He would be dead already if the government was willing to kill all these people on 911.

who really knows what it would have looked like, how many times do you see a plane crash into a building at such low altitude .

Good point. However, I went to see Moore's cut & paste propaganda job depicting 9-11 as an inside job, and as I arrived at the theater, there were jack-booted thugs dragging the theater manager out of the building by the hair and beating him mercilessly. These brown-shirted, jack booted thugs had arm bands with a "Bush Regime" logo imprinted on them. All those waiting in line to see the movie were detained for questioning and were subjected to body cavity searches. Lucky for me that I hadn't bought my ticket yet. Instead, I went over to the poster shop and bought a poster that said: "Corporate Power Rules!" The Bush thug guarding that door just nodded his approval.

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Jones is not the only one talking about 911 being an inside job ... and they just label him as one of those "conspiracy nutjobs" so folks like you will have something to believe in ...

...Jones wouldn't be the only one they would have to kill ...

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"...Jones wouldn't be the only one they would have to kill ... "



Exactly, GrowRebel. That was the point of my last post. Can you imagine how much trouble those theatre managers are in at this point in time? There's been a complete media cover up regarding their arrests and their detainment at the secret location in the Pentagon too. The poor saps are probably being waterboarded as we speak.

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I was just using him as an example, if these conspiracy theories were correct about and our government was as fucked up as they make it out to seem, i could see no one that posted 911 conspiracies or anythign similar to live very long, weather they just "disappear" or die suddenly it would happen if our government was that fucked up, but i do not believe that.

The poster in the other 911 thread ask people to provide links to back the government story ... you see anything in that thread or this one? ... why is that? ... Just because they're not killing people who speak the truth (probably hope they will be though of as nuts) doesn't mean it didn't happen ... so you think it's bullshit ... show us proof the government is innocent ...

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Whether the government did it or not is really not the fundamental issue. The real issue is that so many people actually believe they did. That tells volumes about the state of our representative government. The people just don't trust them, they feel, (rightly so), that the government doesn't represent them any more, that the government is owned by corporations, (Rightly so), that we live in an oligarchic plutocracy, (Amen). This kind of government is the best that money can buy, and you and I, well we are paying the bills while the rich are stealing the country, Ahhh, they've already stolen it and now are just enjoying their plunder.

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Two questions about the Pentagon remain unanswered for some people:
1. What happened to the building girders?
2. What happened the fuselage of the Boeing 757?

Please understand that the Pentagon was the first major building built with a tension-wire technology. It is still the largest building ever built with tension-wire. This design does not use steel I-beam girders to construct the structure. It is presumed by engineers that slamming a plane into such a building would look a lot like pushing cheese thru a wire cutter.

Furthermore, tests have been done, at high speeds, of slamming a fighter jet into a solid wall. These tests were done to prove what will happen when a jet slams into the side of a nuclear containment building at a power plant. Most of the plane turns to dust or tiny debris. Small pieces of the wingtips and the engines were found, but not much else.



Here is a picture of luggage and debris from the Boeing 757 collected a couple days later. This image seems consistant with expected results from such an impact; based on other observed events.



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