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How Ironic that a Major in the army who went to medical school and was a specialist in stress related to being in war attempted to take the life of 50 people due to stress related to going to war. War sucks.
I'm telling ya ... obviously the major knew he would be doing nothing more than fighting, killing, and dying for corporate interests. The truth of the matter caused him to snap ... especially having first hand knowledge of what being in an illegal war can do to a person's mind. It may have been too much to bare. My heart goes out to him and all the military families caught up in this bullshit.

Now on to the 911 news ...
Cynthia McKinney was interviewed in France ... they seem to have taking a keen interest ... well not the corporate media in France of course, but some of the French media does seem to have an interest in what really happen on 911 ...

Interview: Cynthia McKinney and Niels Harrit
Some of it is in French, but when they start talking to McKinney and Harrit, it's in English. It looks like the video will only load half way so half of the interview is gone ... if and when they correct the video I will repost if necessary, if not I will let you know when it's running fully again.

Chomsky Confronted on 9/11 Admits LIHOP is "conceivable"
A 9/11 activist recently confronted Noam Chomsky on his previous, well-publicized disparaging remarks about 9/11 truth. After spending several minutes repeating his tired arguments about the impossibility of 9/11 as an inside job, Chomsky then concedes that the notion that the Bush Administration knew of an impending attack and let it happen on purpose is "conceivable." Watch footage of the confrontation in the video player below:
Mark Abell Grills Noam Chomsky On 911 As An Inside Job


The video comes from a speaking engagement that venerated linguist and political commentator Noam Chomsky was giving at the First Unitarian Church of Portland on October 2, 2009. In his question, 9/11 activist Mark Abell first details the historical precedents of the Reichstag fire and FDR's foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor to establish that false flags and LIHOP events have been used in the past to justify warmongering. Then he asks why the notion of 9/11 as an inside job is such an "inconceivable idea" for Chomsky to a round of applause from the audience.

Of course those of you that have been following this thread know I have posted this interview before with Aaron Russo and Alex Jones ... looks like the Dailymotion got a hold of it as well ...
Aaron Russo - Was told 9-11 would happen months in advance!
Like I said ... the some of the French have a keen interested in what really happen that day.

Apparently this writer below has a strong belief in the Israel 911 connection ...
Israel's Super-Thermite Lab
The thesis of my book, Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World, is that a small gang of high-level Zionist extremists carried out 9-11. This group centers around the senior Israeli terrorist, Shimon Peres, who is currently president of Israel. This group includes other Israeli leaders, such as the former Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, and the current prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. It also includes the Israeli minister of defense, Ehud Barak, and other less well known members of Israel's military intelligence establishment. Former Mossad officers, especially people like Arnon Milchan, who have been involved in building Israel's nuclear weapons arsenal with Shimon Peres, are also included.


... and that's the 911 news ... Happy Friday everybody!
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Okay ... I found a link with the full McKinney, Harrit interview. Very interesting. It's about 26 minutes long.

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There are 5 or 10 more "Coincidences".
Shall we keep going? or have you had enough of us "nutts" ?
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and also, a little edit to add this little peice of informatio


marvin Bush, Head of security for both American Airlines, AND the WTC complex



coincidence? one in 10,000 co incidences


*jedi mind trick hand wave* move along, no dots to connect here
Whoa! if this is true, it sure smells funny...Is the guys name a coincidence also?...time to google!

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Whoa! if this is true, it sure smells funny...Is the guys name a coincidence also?...time to google!

Wow do I feel stupid...Jorge's freaking little brother! According to Wiki (for what it's worth) Marvin was on the board of directors for Securacom, but it lists his tenure from '93-2000.

Oh and Securacom is owned by a Kuwati company....and has contracts with the defense dept.

So in a little browsing I cam across this (it is short and sweet with lots of stuff for the attention span impaired)
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...1security.html

The Bush stuff and then some of the stuff on the above link (I am sure the OP has posted all of this before, but...) Things like the bomb sniffing dogs being removed a week before and the 36 hour power outage from the 50th floor up (both allowing explosives to be set up).


And then what Keenly has posted in response to BP...It really puts it into perspective; on the one hand, rallying against our enemies, while on the other, the huge disproportion of casualties.

I am in now way anti-Semitic, but I can see where a case could be made for an Israeli connection.

I do not know if it is crystal clear yet, but this whole thing sure smells bad.

To think that this has led us into 2 "wars" is very sad. And if ANYONE thinks we actually have a chance of "winning" in Iraq (in the long term) much less any possible hope of accomplishing anything other than strengthening Al-Queda and the towlie-ban and pissing off Iran and Pakistan...they are, well...a little high.

BILLIONS of dollars wasted...but hell no we should not let the poor get healthcare in our own country! That would be an abomination to all things we hold dear as a free and democratic country!

How in the world, otherwise seemingly intelligent people can be fooled into supporting foreign wars while at the same time claiming that spending a fraction over many years for a healthy citizenry will somehow destroy our freedom. Insurance companies are in the business to screw people, not help them!

I find it an utter embarrassment the the United States has a higher infant mortality rate than Cuba, Canada, All of the European Union, New Zealand, Australia, Scandinavia, The Czech Republic, South Korea, and many others...Our superior capitalistic system and pious population does not justify such shamefulness....but blowing stuff up and killing brown folks is cool...

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Wow do I feel stupid...Jorge's freaking little brother! According to Wiki (for what it's worth) Marvin was on the board of directors for Securacom, but it lists his tenure from '93-2000.

Oh and Securacom is owned by a Kuwati company....and has contracts with the defense dept.

So in a little browsing I cam across this (it is short and sweet with lots of stuff for the attention span impaired)
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...1security.html

The Bush stuff and then some of the stuff on the above link (I am sure the OP has posted all of this before, but...) Things like the bomb sniffing dogs being removed a week before and the 36 hour power outage from the 50th floor up (both allowing explosives to be set up).


And then what Keenly has posted in response to BP...It really puts it into perspective; on the one hand, rallying against our enemies, while on the other, the huge disproportion of casualties.

I am in now way anti-Semitic, but I can see where a case could be made for an Israeli connection.

I do not know if it is crystal clear yet, but this whole thing sure smells bad.

To think that this has led us into 2 "wars" is very sad. And if ANYONE thinks we actually have a chance of "winning" in Iraq (in the long term) much less any possible hope of accomplishing anything other than strengthening Al-Queda and the towlie-ban and pissing off Iran and Pakistan...they are, well...a little high.

BILLIONS of dollars wasted...but hell no we should not let the poor get healthcare in our own country! That would be an abomination to all things we hold dear as a free and democratic country!

How in the world, otherwise seemingly intelligent people can be fooled into supporting foreign wars while at the same time claiming that spending a fraction over many years for a healthy citizenry will somehow destroy our freedom. Insurance companies are in the business to screw people, not help them!

I find it an utter embarrassment the the United States has a higher infant mortality rate than Cuba, Canada, All of the European Union, New Zealand, Australia, Scandinavia, The Czech Republic, South Korea, and many others...Our superior capitalistic system and pious population does not justify such shamefulness....but blowing stuff up and killing brown folks is cool...

welll.... hayduke its not really like the new healthcare bill is good


healthcare is a good concept, and when your only fed one peice of the pie it sounds amazing


but look at this news today

a new amendmant tha says if you do not buy a 15,000$ policy, you COULD go to jail for up to 5 years



they are SERIOUSLY threatening jail time to anyone who does not buy their shit


that is not freedom, that is not helping the poor....that is the exact opposite of both




here is the article






Pelosi: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail
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House Committee On Ways & Means Republicans
November 7, 2009
Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”
Key excerpts from the JCT letter appear below:
H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]
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If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]
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Criminal penalties
Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:
• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.” [page 3]
When confronted with this same issue during its consideration of a similar individual mandate tax, the Senate Finance Committee worked on a bipartisan basis to include language in its bill that shielded Americans from civil and criminal penalties. The Pelosi bill, however, contains no similar language protecting American citizens from civil and criminal tax penalties that could include a $250,000 fine and five years in jail.
“The Senate Finance Committee had the good sense to eliminate the extreme penalty of incarceration. Speaker Pelosi’s decision to leave in the jail time provision is a threat to every family who cannot afford the $15,000 premium her plan creates. Fortunately, Republicans have an alternative that will lower health insurance costs without raising taxes or cutting Medicare,” said Camp.
According to the Congressional Budget Office the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.
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I would have to agree, that as it stands, there is problems with language that could be misconstrued...

But this is no different from claiming that there will be death panels.

With no public option, any bill is just more bs legislation. We will have wasted lots of time and money for nothing. The problem with healthcare IS the insurance companies. If there is no option to the big insurance companies, there is NO reform.

This is just politics. It is absolutely ridiculous to think that it would become law...many Americans earn less than $20,000/year.

But I really believe that the chest pounding republicans will make sure that there is no healthcare for the poor unless they can make it to 65...or happen to live in a (foreign) war zone.

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Confirmed:14 Israeli's Inside WTC
The 14 Art Students, it has now been confirmed, were in the World Trade Center Towers with Construction Passes, Connection to Mossad Spy Ring

CoreOfCorruption.com - 4 Suspects in World Trade Center Before 9/11 Doing Construction


CBC TV’s “Fifth Estate” Program Airs AE911Truth Nov 27
On September 11 of this year, we were interviewed on September 11 in New York at the We Demand Transparency conference by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's "Fifth Estate" program. This is the equivalent of "60 Minutes" in Canada. It is set to air on November 27.
The producers of the National Geographic Channel assured us that they would air the evidence we highlighted for them on their show 9/11: Science and Conspiracy. They even showed us these segments in their "rough cut," which we were quite satisfied with. However, the final show aired none of our evidence, and they claimed that we had none. We were determined not to let this happen a second time with the CBC.



Norman Mineta Confirms That Dick Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11
Former Transportation Secretary Disputes 9/11 Commission Report Timetable for Dick Cheney and Reveals Lynn Cheney Was Also in PEOC Bunker Before Attack
911truthseattle.org meets Norm Mineta


Barry Jennings, Deputy Director, Emergency Services Dept., New York Housing Authority,on WTC 7
Barry Jennings, Deputy Director, Emergency Services Dept., New York Housing Authority, on the Alex Jones Radio Show.
Barry Jennings, Deputy Director, Emergency Services Dept., New York Housing Authority, on the Alex Jones Radio Show. He was in WTC 7 before it collapsed and heard explosions and saw lobby destroyed with many dead bodies. This is all before WTC 1 & 2 collapsed.
Barry Jennings



OH COME ON NOW, THIS IS JUST PLAIN FUCKING SILLY!!!!!!!!:Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists
Major Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a "spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept 11, 2001.



Richard Dreyfuss Says No To New 9/11 Investigation

Richard Dreyfuss was confronted by We Are Change Chicago and
DuPage911Truth.org about supporting Charlie Sheen's call for a new 9/11 Investigation at Naperville, IL on September 19, 2009. Richard insists that a new investigation wait a generation.

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Oh Richard, you are SUCH a hypocrite here!
I have personally heard you rail about how your own ancestor, Captain Alfred Dreyfuss, was screwed over because nobody wanted to challenge the official story of L'Affair Dreyfuss!
And now here you are essentially saying that the official story should be left alone until after the perpetrators have died of old age!
Richard, why don't you stop commenting on things you know nothing about, go golfing, and work on your putz.


9/11 Flight 93 Rare Footage

Here another one of those videos where there is no plane wreckage and people are reporting no evidence of a plane crash.


Shaped Charges and the World Trade Center Collapses
Why were high velocity explosives detonating in the vicinity of the World Trade Center?


World Trade Center on 9/11 - Sounds of Explosions



9/11 Firefighters: Bombs and
Explosions in the WTC

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Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report
Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers, intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report. Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11. This website is a collection of their statements. It is not an organization and it should be made clear that none of these individuals are affiliated with this website.
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Swedish Member Of Parliament: Leading Politicians Support 9/11 Truth Movement
A Swedish Member of Parliament has pledged support for a new investigation into the events of 9/11, adding that prominent political figures support the view that elements of the U.S. government were involved in staging the attacks.

An article headlined “The U.S. was part of the attack” in the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, highlights comments made by MP Egon Frid of the country’s “Left Party”.

“The U.S. administration knew of the terrorist attack before and was a part of it,” Frid said in an interview with Swedish TV network TV4 on it’s “Kalla Facts” (Hard Facts) programme.

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