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Old 08-21-2009, 01:17 PM
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That site was total bullshit, lol. Reverse psychology failure if I've ever seen one.
You have to clarify ... why is WRH total bullshit? Like I said I have my questions but WRH IMO is an excellent news source.

In fact I found this at their site ...
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs is Reviewing 9/11 Thermite Paper

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs received the Thermite paper on August 11, 2009. Contact Mr. Gibbs to find out what he is doing with this information. Here is the 9/11 Thermite document:
http://files.meetup.com/749288/NanoThermite%20paper.pdf
Download it and share it with any and all people especially government officials.

For an explanation of the paper's findings in language geared to non-scientists, see:
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/t..._residues.html


I highly doubt he will review anything and even if he did, he will do nothing about it. But this still puts them on notice that we know and it is making them nervous.
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WCM brings up a good point. Whose going to be doing the investigating? On a matter like this, we'd either have to fully trust a new investigation under some new cabinet of government (I don't know if I would be able to trust an investigation that took place in Obama's administration, to me his is almost identicle to the Bush administration) or some independent team (something I can't remember seeing or hearing about, which probably means is not likely to happen..).

So do the rest of you think you would feel comfortable if say they did have another investigation and the results came up the same? No gov. coverup, no conspiracy, 19 hijackers... 4 planes, the whole thing.

If another investigation ever does take place, that is really the only shot at getting anymore information about 911 out, but I don't see any other entitiy other than the US gov. to fund it. It would be kind of like me funding my own murder trial... I'd have every amount of motivation to NOT get the facts right, wouldn't I?
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Arrow This just in ...
The folks in this article name names ...

EARLY 9-11 REPORTAGE REVEALS SURPRISES
New York Post, Sept. 13, page 59
"Beyond Pearl Harbor"
by Robert D. Novak

Novak's first sentence:
Security experts and airline officials agree privately that the simultaneous hijacking of four jetliners was an "inside job," probably indicating complicity beyond malfeasance.
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In the last paragraph, Novak reports:
Stratfor.com, the private intelligence company, reported Tuesday, "The big winner today, intentionally or not, is the state of Israel."
See also: The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested on 9-11


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You have to clarify ... why is WRH total bullshit? Like I said I have my questions but WRH IMO is an excellent news source.
My bad, they were showing the footage the "shills" were using.
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WCM brings up a good point. Whose going to be doing the investigating?
Some how we have got to have an non partisan investigation ... perhaps civil? It's obvious the elite in government has no intentions of doing anything. It would be like putting a noose around their own necks.

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On a matter like this, we'd either have to fully trust a new investigation under some new cabinet of government (I don't know if I would be able to trust an investigation that took place in Obama's administration, to me his is almost identicle to the Bush administration) or some independent team (something I can't remember seeing or hearing about, which probably means is not likely to happen..).
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So do the rest of you think you would feel comfortable if say they did have another investigation and the results came up the same? No gov. coverup, no conspiracy, 19 hijackers... 4 planes, the whole thing.
Not if they do the same as the last bogus investigation were there was no testifying under oath and both parties blocking evidence. It would be obvious as before of a cover-up.

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If another investigation ever does take place, that is really the only shot at getting anymore information about 911 out, but I don't see any other entitiy other than the US gov. to fund it. It would be kind of like me funding my own murder trial... I'd have every amount of motivation to NOT get the facts right, wouldn't I?
We the people will have to find a way of doing it without the elites in government blocking our attempt to find the truth. We will have to see what happens in NY in November.

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My bad, they were showing the footage the "shills" were using.
I had a feeling that what happen ... no problem
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Letter to NIST from AE911truth.org requesting meeting regarding NIST Reports
Dr. Shyam Sunder
National Institute of Standards & Technology
100 Bureau Drive
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-1070
July 20, 2009

Re: Request for meeting regarding NIST Reports - WTC7 and Twin Towers
Dear Dr. Sunder,
We have heard you state publicly after the WTC 7 press conference that it “would not be productive” for you to meet with the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. This is quite
disappointing – as we now have over 700 architects and engineers at AE911Truth calling for a real investigation into the destruction of the three World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11. At what point will you take us seriously? Perhaps when our rapidly growing numbers reach 1,000 A/E’s?

Here are our talking points:


South Tower Smoking Guns
This view of the destruction of the South Tower of the World Trade Center displays a remarkable number of features that support the interpretation that it was destroyed by explosives.


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EARLY 9-11 REPORTAGE REVEALS SURPRISES
New York Post, Sept. 13, page 59
"Beyond Pearl Harbor"
by Robert D. Novak


This is a nice find reb ..... a few nice finds
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This was put up at another political pot forum. I'm trying to get a link from the OP pretty good info so I thought I'd put it up ... check it out ...
The WTC were designed to withstand a full-on impact from a Boeing 707. The Boeing 707 weighed between 103,145 lb (46,785 kg) (the lightest model out of three) and 146,400 lb (66,406 kg) (the heaviest of the three). Those figures are just the plane itself, not the maximum operating weight. The Boeing 707 could hold between 16,060 US gal (60,900 l) (the lightest of the three models) and 23,820 US gal (90,160 l) (the heaviest of the three).

That means that the WTC was constructed to take an impact of a Boeing 707 weighing more than 146,400 lb (66,406 kg) (maximum flight capacity being 333,600 lb (151,320 kg)), with a fuel capacity of 23,820 US gal (90,160 l). Most of the fuel would vaporize/burn off on impact, but a significant amount would still make it into the towers. However, this amount, would not make the towers unstable.

Now let's look at the plane that hit the towers: the Boeing 767.

The Boeing 767 weighs between 176,650 lb (80,130 kg) (the lightest model) and
229,000 lb (103,870 kg) (the heaviest model). It can carry 23,980 U.S. gal (90,770 L) of fuel. That is roughly the same amount of fuel as the 707. Already here we can rule out, that the amounts of fuel dumped into the WTC couldn't have been greater than anticipated, since the 767 doesn't carry more fuel than the 707.

We can, however, see that the 767 weighs quite alot more than the 707. But if impact would have been an issue, the problems would have shown immediately: cracking columns and a severely weakened structure would force the building into the ground in a matter of minutes - not hours. And since the plane doesn't carry these "massive amounts" of fuel you talk of, it becomes clear, that fuel fires from a 767 would not be worse than fuel fires from a 707, at least in amounts.

A hit from 767 would not pose a significantly greater risk to the WTC than a hit from a 707.
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Thats VERY true GR. Been lookin at that for along time now. I just dont understand why/how this is SO hard to believe ?? ITS ALL SCIENCE. well i guess now we know just how much THE MEDIA controls peoples thoughts....
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Thats VERY true GR. Been lookin at that for along time now. I just dont understand why/how this is SO hard to believe ?? ITS ALL SCIENCE. well i guess now we know just how much THE MEDIA controls peoples thoughts....
Wyteboi ... some people simply can't handle the truth. So they disregard the facts and create a fantasy in their head. The don't want to believe that the elite thinks of them as cattle ... to be used in what ever manner they see fit. We keep the pressure on by continuing to present the evidence ... and work to make it generally known. Because we talk about it and spread the word, it will make it more difficult for them to stage another false flag attack.
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