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forums; Originally Posted by mame Honestly, I'm surprised this hasn't been talked about much. So how does this work then? Since ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mame View Post
    Honestly, I'm surprised this hasn't been talked about much. So how does this work then? Since Obama is in the executive branch he can just bypass congress and tell Geithner to just keep borrowing as needed to pay debts and obligations already accrued? ofc if he did so, it'd be challenged and eventually make it to the supreme court - but would they stop government borrowing until at least a first ruling by a lower court? Are judges likely to stop the borrowing? Any cases that have set precedent here?
    In a nut shell yes. Congress has the responsibility to pay our debts. Obama took an oath to uphold the Constitution and that includes Paying our debts. The President is responsible for upholding the Constitution even if it is Congress that is the one that is violating it.
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    Sorry but the 14th admandment slight of hand will not work.

    Just because a debt is reconized as vaild does not mean it has to be paid, of gives the prisident the authority to raise the debt limit with out the approval of congress.

    If you think we are going to solve this (long term) before the election, well it's just not going to happen, this is going to be the albatross around Obamas neck that takes him down.

    He is so far over his head and out calssed that I would be suprised if he does not resigh befor next november.

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    I keep hearing Take Obama Down.

    I thought HCR was going to do that? Nope.

    I thought the oil spill was his Katrina? Nope.

    And yet he leads in every poll against every candidate.

    Something tells me that your frustration is insatiable.

    See you 2012!
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    Besides that, by painting himself as the big kid in a room full of bickering douchbags (congress) he is doing a good job politically of deflecting blame for any breakdowns in debt reduction talks while setting himself up to declare victory when a large austerity package passes.

    My only hope is that he spends that political capital arguing for infrastructure investment to get those 1+ mil construction workers back to work... Such a waste of human capital...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BendBrewer View Post
    Ok but this is the one and only time. From now on, you are going to have to educate yourself. Deal?

    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
    Pretty neat huh?

    what the fuck are you even talking about? let me say this again, numbskull,.

    ITS YOUR FUCKING GUY THATS SAYING IT!!

    was that loud enough? wait, here it is in crayon

    ITS YOUR FUCKING BOYFRIEND WHO IS SAYING IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by mame View Post
    Besides that, by painting himself as the big kid in a room full of bickering douchbags (congress) he is doing a good job politically of deflecting blame for any breakdowns in debt reduction talks while setting himself up to declare victory when a large austerity package passes.

    My only hope is that he spends that political capital arguing for infrastructure investment to get those 1+ mil construction workers back to work... Such a waste of human capital...

    ...here fellas, here is another yellow line...paint it again....

    as the planners plan....

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    Jeff if you could get beyond your irrational angst, you would see that you are letting yourself fly off the handle regarding a post I directed to another poster.

    You aren't even the same thread dude. Chill.

    Take a deep breath and relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BendBrewer View Post
    In a nut shell yes. Congress has the responsibility to pay our debts. Obama took an oath to uphold the Constitution and that includes Paying our debts. The President is responsible for upholding the Constitution even if it is Congress that is the one that is violating it.
    then how come dumbo is telling my grandma she aint getting her check? is your half white president lying?

    wait, after reading your posts.....whose side are you on? haha....this is fucking hilarious. full panic from the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BendBrewer View Post
    Jeff if you could get beyond your irrational angst, you would see that you are letting yourself fly off the handle regarding a post I directed to another poster.

    You aren't even the same thread dude. Chill.

    Take a deep breath and relax.
    once again, what the fuck are you talking about? i started this post silly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff f View Post
    ...here fellas, here is another yellow line...paint it again....

    as the planners plan....
    the place you live in doesn't have potholes in the roads? There isn't some bridge project the state couldn't afford but really needs? There is nothing that needs repairs at all? Didn't our own military tell us our intrastructure is garbage? Why dont we listen to them and fix the problem? We're falling behind because people like you stop the government from making necessary investments; So much for USA #1 - the righties would rather we have dirt roads.
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