I seem to remember both elections. He won both elections.

Your 'sources' are left wing blogs. What fucking facts?

As far as the folks at home are concerned. I offer the big lie. Big Lie tactic is a propaganda device often associated with the Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Simply, it is this: if those in authority repeat an outrageous falsehood over and over, and there is no countervailing voice exposing this big lie to the public, or if that voice is censored by the media, the big lie is likely to be believed.

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Good question. A better one would be WHY are they in denile? Personally, I think its the bitter hatred harbored against George Bush by the move-on types and the publicity they put out over the Net ... and also the misleading news coverage by the Main Stream Media. CNN has done a great job on the terrorism threat issue through the Glenn Beck TV show. But even after watching this show at my suggestion, the Left-Wing bats on this forum still deny the truth.

I haven't seen all the Democrat debates, so I can't say for sure ... but have any of the Democrat candidates addressed the issue of Islamic terrorism at all? Any said what their policies would be toward the issue?

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Maybe they can use this.

Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

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From what I've seen, the Dem debates feature questions like, "How are you going to help the uninsured children"?, and, "What are your solutions to the mortgage crisis?", or, "What would you do to stabilize this uncertain economy"? etc etc. The Republican debates feature questions like, "What are your positions on religion, abortion, and gay marriage"?, and, "Do you support torture/waterboarding"?, or, "What do you despise most about one of your fellow Republican candidates"?

I actually like the "hard" questions the Republicans get. It is a lot more revealing of character, something I think the dems would rather not disclose until after being elected.

Well, you've made my point. That study you posted was done for CNN by the Center for Public Integrity, which was founded by, and is run by Charles Lewis. Here's some info on Mr. Lewis:

Charles Lewis is a former 60 Minutes producer who left the ranks of commercial journalism to found, in 1989, the Center for Public Integrity,[1] a non-partisan group which reports on political and government workings. When commenting on his move away from primetime journalism, Lewis expressed his frustration that the most important issues of the day were not being reported. Lewis and the Center recently won the first George Polk Award for Internet Journalism for the piece "Windfalls of War." He is also a hardcore liberal, as seen through many of his publications.
Honored over 30 times in the last eight years, the Center has published 14 books including the recent "The Buying of the President 2004." Previously relying on its print newsletter, The Public, it now primarily focuses on the Web [1] to convey its investigative findings which extend to world-wide public policy journalism. Critics of the Center accuse it of partisan sympathies, but Lewis has pointed out that it had also reported on such topics as the Clinton's Lincoln Bedroom scandal as well as the latest string of controversies under the Bush administration.
Lewis has given interviews for various publications and has appeared in the 2003 documentary Orwell Rolls in His Grave, which focuses on the hidden mechanics of the media, its role as it should be and what it actually is, and how it shapes (to the point of almost controlling) U.S. politics. He has commented on the dismal state of U.S. political reporting which was and is woefully understaffed across the board. He also discussed the inability of media to fulfill its public duty in keeping the public informed when television, newspaper and radio outlets are owned almost entirely by a few major corporations such as General Electric, Disney, Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation—and how the interests of these large conglomerates steer the route of what we believe to be "objective journalism" today.
He was also interviewed for the 2005 documentary Why We Fight by Eugene Jarecki, which focuses on the United States Military-industrial complex and on wars led by the U.S. over the last fifty years. In his statements, Lewis elaborates on Vice President Dick Cheney's involvement with Halliburton Energy Services resp. its subsidiary KBR, the privatization of war [2], war as a precursor for economic colonialism and "most of the government's decisions" being "substantially dictated by powerful corporate interest".

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IF (big if) the present administration misled the country regarding Iraq, I could care less. Iraq is a front in our War on Radical Islam. The President felt we should fight the bad guys in Iraq. We seem to be fighting Al Queda in Iraq.

In WW II, we fought in the Philippines, the Solomon Islands, Wake Island, Saipan, Tarawa.... None of which attacked the U.S. Each had one thing in common, Japanese troops. If they were not there when U.S. troops arrived, they came as fast as possible.

Some historians theorize that FDR knew a Japanese attack was imminent prior to Pearl Harbor, but chose to do nothing hoping a sneak attack would draw the U.S. into WW II. Was Roosevelt a war criminal?

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I honestly dont know how you can draw a comparison between WW2 and the reasons for being In Iraq.
Maybe a good place to start in "Your War" on Radical Islam is closer to home than the Middle East.

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The demise of the Democratic party? An excellent suggestion.

That's the point. We fight them where they are. We didn't start this war.

My point about WW II is that none of the countries I mentioned attacked us, but we fought there anyway.

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Dude except for Thailand it was war against the Japanese not the countries they invaded. Japan was at war with China and the US and Its Allies, Australia included blockaded vital supplies Like oil, Iron Ore etc, Japan was nearly totally reliant on Imports and this blockade was seen as Aggressive so The Japs bombed Pearl Harbour to try and bring the US to the talk table but it didnt quite work out that way not long later Germany declared war on the US and next thing the US is at war on two fronts.
I hope that was easy to understand.

Now Iraq,
Beleive any story you want, if the Politicians are selling you a good story then you got a bargain, because its worthless.
Just step back and look at the BIG PiCTURE its Oil Oil Oil, and they call Saddam the Devil with two dicks and it is still not enough to convince me he was all that, Rumsfeld dealt with him and sold him weapons, all of a sudden the Xmas cards stop and he is a threat to humanity.
I beleived Afgansitan for a while, but if the Allies were true about what they are doing, they would have had a big fucking Surge there and sorted that out first.

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