The 9/11 attackers shouldnt even be called terrorists. as Med has said, the main tool of a terrorist is, by definition, the terror they cause. these guys dont want to scare us, they just want us dead. a more accurate term would be guerilla fighters. the big news companies as well as the government gain by spooking the population, so they use a sensationalistic phrase like "terrorist".

Mookab, how are we fighting a moral war? the extremist muslims are the ones fighting for morality!

if somebody suckerpunches u in the face, ur a pussy if u dont fight them. this same mentality shouldnt be used in supporting a war. especially this "war on terror". what does that even mean? at least the "war on drugs" has a target.

Yes, they have put a bulls-eye on themselves, but most of us aren't looking at or listening to them.

I watch Glen Beck every day. One thing I like about his program is that he shows the Radical Islamic Mullahs giving speeches in the Mosques denouncing the West, Israel, and any other non-believers. They are calling for the complete destruction of all those who won't convert to Islam. The president of Iran has publically stated that Iran will wipe Israel off of the map. He has spoken of the same intent for us as well and he's developing nuclear tecnology for "energy purposes." Yeah, right! He's not alone in his thinking at all. Like I said in another thread ... listen to what they are saying.

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Yea Vi, I agree, Glenn Beck is doing a tremendous job in disclosing the truly virulent nature of our self avowed adversaries. Many on the "ostrich" left are exerting an amazing amount of energy attempting to convince themselves that these extremists:

a) Don’t really mean what they say...or...
b) Even if they do mean it, they couldn't do anything anyway, so who cares, there is no real threat.
c) The government manufactured the whole notion of any external threat as a means of control over populace...
....ad infunitum!
they jump thru a multitude of intellectual hoops to arrive at their contorted conclusions.
There is no consideration on their part that they may be mistaken, what happens to this outlook, if, and, when a US target is vaporized?
Way too much to risk if they are wrong.
History is replete with examples of why self avowed enemies need to be dealt with on a timely basis.
We have to kill them all, or at least convince these evil scumbags that this is our intent!

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Man, I couldn't agree with you more, Wavels. I don't wish any harm on any American, but its going to be interesting to hear the "take" of the left after the next major attack on our soil. Can you imagine if Hillary is serving as president when it happens? What will the libbies say then ... that its all Bush's fault? Maybe they'll dig up Nixon again ... or possibly Reagan. Couldn't possibly be the fault of the Cindy Sheehan "Amen Corner" could it? *lol*

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The gist of the article, in case you missed it, was that we shouldn't live in fear of the "Terrorists" because we have a larger chance of being injured or killed by a deer,

I understand the "gist" of the article, and the gist of my response is that the article is fallacious and silly. It's like reading an article that says we shouldn't be at all concerned about breast cancer because heart disease is the real threat. One subject has nothing to do with the other. ANY concern can be marginalized by insisting upon looking at an increasingly large picture, thereby reletavizing the original issue into oblivion. But it's a bullshit tactic to use when trying to make a point.

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understand the "gist" of the article, and the gist of my response is that the article is fallacious and silly. It's like reading an article that says we shouldn't be at all concerned about breast cancer because heart disease is the real threat. One subject has nothing to do with the other. ANY concern can be marginalized by insisting upon looking at an increasingly large picture, thereby reletavizing the original issue into oblivion. But it's a bullshit tactic to use when trying to make a point. I'll guarantee you, you have a better chance of getting cancer or having a heart attack or being killed in a car accident then you have in being killed by a terrorist. The terrorist scare is fomented by our government to allow them to foist shit like the Patriot act and illegal phone taps, and illegal mail openings upon us. Just keep running scared and believe "the terrorists are coming" if you like. Me, like the man from missouri, show me! Hey I guess I'm no chickenshit, The latest scare is that Vegas is one high target. No worries mate, If they nuke Vegas there will be a hole in the ground from Barstow to Ely as Nellis is where they store thousands of nukes, can you say Vaporized!

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I wonder what the victims 0f 9/11/01 thought their chances were of having a heart attack,car crash or cancer were to getting killed by terrorist?????????? The threat is very real. It started over 30 years ago in the west at the Olympics in Canada. It hasn't slowed down, but increased. That means the threat has increased. And that doesn't include our home grown terrorist like the Macfes and the American millitia groups. The threat is very real. We can't go around worrying about it. But we can't stick our heads in the sand and hope it doesn't find us!!!!!!

[quote=mookab;33594]I wonder what the victims 0f 9/11/01 thought their chances were of having a heart attack,car crash or cancer were to getting killed by terrorist?????????? The threat is very real. It started over 30 years ago in the west at the Olympics in Canada. It hasn't slowed down, but increased. That means the threat has increased. And that doesn't include our home grown terrorist like the Macfes and the American millitia groups. The threat is very real. We can't go around worrying about it. But we can't stick our heads in the sand and hope it doesn't find us!!!!!![/quote]
So your answer is: Start wars in Islamic countries and kill all the bastards, much like Wavels and ViRedds? Killing for profit is pretty much the US foriegn policy, so I guess you've been brainwashed eh! The enemy my friend, lies within the borders Of the good old USA, Primarily holed up in Washington DC under the guise of our benevolent government!

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Whay world do you live in? We didn't start the war, we didn't draw first blood,And if it's about money, our country is spending not receiving. And if you think that pulling out will stop the terrorist,you need to take your head out of the sand. Or what ever you got your head stuck up in. You need to realize that if they attack Isriel, It's going to be world war 3. And if we don't do something 1st, Isrial will and should attack 1st. Because they are alone except for us. Either way we will end up in a war greater than the one we're in. We need to nip it in the bud now. Stop trying to see things with your eyes closed and wake up. No one wants war except the terrorist. They have no agenda but to die and take everyone they can with them. How many 9/11s will have to happen before people like you say"Oh shit, this is real"? I'm from NY. Maybe when it happens in your back yard, you'll wake up.

Hey chill out. I'm from Vegas and we've moved up to the top if the "Terrorists" hit list. Look, I'm not saying they didn't hit New york, they did, or at least that is what we're supposed to believe. There are a lot of conspiracy theorys about that also. Here's the deal, Kill Bin Laden, No problem. Kill 100,000-800,000 iraqis and 3,000++ americans, big fucking deal. The Iraqis had nothing to do with blowing up New York. Why are we killing them. It seems to me that maybe you should pull your head out of Bushs' arse and look for the truth. Whatever Bush says, you can expect the truth to be about 180 out. No WMDs, No ties to Iraq, No yellow cake uranium, we're not winning in Iraq, Things are not getting better in Iraq, they're getting worse, Not a civil war, yes it is! Wake up yourself and look at the Facts. BTW If they target Las Vegas With a nuke, you guys on the east coast will die from radiation poisening anyway as Nellis AFB has about a thousand nukes stored here, can you say Vaporized. Yeah lets kill more muslims and really piss them off. you ever heard of talking?

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